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And for not killing your own meat, that's just the way human society has evolved. Many centuries ago, humanity was self supplying. You need a house, buid one yourself. You want bread? You have to get everything you need yourself, milk your own cow, make your own butter etc, then bake your own bread. Butcher your own pig for some meat.
Over the centuries however, specialisation has hit our society, in every way, not just food.

Well, there also were times when human beings ate human beings, in some cultures that's still the case You wanna tell me that you would kill a cow with your own hands just because it might taste good? I certainly wouldn't like I said. If every single person would have to kill animals himself if he wants meat, there would be quite a few more vegetarians around in my opinion. I'm not saying that there would only be vegetatrians but quite a few more because ultimately people would have to THINK about what they are eating then. But of course you can eat whatever you wanna eat. I'm the only vegetarian in my whole family so I'm quite tolerant I'd say.

And I know a lot of it has to do with convenience and our fast-food culture, but at some point a person needs to take accountablility for their own health and stop blaming McDonalds.

Oh that's not meat! lol, but ya, way too much reliance on junk food. We consume too many grains as well, they contain a lot of fats.

If we had to hunt for our own food and gather our own food our societies would be completely different becuase we wouldn't be able to live in cities, the earths natural population wouldn't be able to support our eating habits unless we raised it. But you may be meaning to kill our own cattle and stuff, in that case, I would have to dissagree, but that's maybe being farm raised. Butchering a single cow or some chickens or whatnot doesn't seem bad if you've been raised around it, and if everyone was around it, most (of course I know a few vegatarians from farms too) would grow up and do the same. I only find the large slaughterhouses disturbing...not a family killing for food.

I respect all vegetarians, I like everyone thinking about what they're doing and following a decision. My sister turned semi-vegetarian because of what these huge ranches and slaughterhouses injected and fed to these animals (it's pretty disgusting actually), personally, I think that's one of the best reasons to become a vegetarian, but I won't. Her husband is a vegan...I personally think it's over the top, but who am I to judge on extremeties and I respect his decision...it just makes him difficult to cook for when I invite them over, lol.

But ya, if you know what your doing, what your eating and why, go for it.

Wow, just a simple question about Dev's eating habits, and now we've got... this!

And I know a lot of it has to do with convenience and our fast-food culture, but at some point a person needs to take accountablility for their own health and stop blaming McDonalds.

That's exactly how I feel - everyone has to take care of his own health. And that's what I find positive about people being vegetarians - I'm not, btw - the fact that they don't eat meat at least shows that they actually think about their food and try to differentiate a bit between the fuckload of food the supermarket next door has to offer.

These days, we got so many sources to find out what is healthy and what not, so when I go to McDonalds three times a week, eat some burgers and flush 'em down with coke, I know who is responsible for possible weight problems: ME.

Oh, there I go...off on another tangent. I just happen to be very opinionated about why so many people are on-the-verge diabetics and my tax dollars are paying for their health problems because they're too lazy to eat right and excercise...

Sorry again

Hey, at least we have an opinion about a topic that should concern more people! So... We certainly don't have to apologize

i am happy to say it was not me who started this topic.. for once.., well, Tracy, there's a lot of vegan and vegetarian artists out there who don't have their own cooks on tour too often. If you're committed to the thing, you'll make it. the venue most often asks what you'd like to have for supper, like pizzas ans s..t. salads, nuts, pastas, whatever..besides, as far as travelling goes, excluding the hot meals, most of the stuff you need, including required supplements, you can take with you. Man oh man oh man - to all who don;t think looking around and paying attention to what you eat's not at all important - I meet lots of people that don't know what the f&*k really goes on around them. Shitloads of suffering every nanosecond, most of it - unnecessary. Dev go Veg or someone might find you yourself are quite tasty..not! :ljavascript:emoticon(':lol:')ol: Greetings to all.

If we did things just because they were the natural thing to do we would never drive/fly/have an internet. Eating meat may be a natural thing to do, but that doesn't mean than you have to do it.

I love your avatar. Dragon Half is amazing.

Why thank you. It was a wrench to stop using my Perfect Blue one, but Dragon Half took the crown.

MECCA ROSHI!!!

Ahem. Yes. Anyway.

As far as my eating habits go, I have a TERRIBLE diet! I eat practically junk food all the time. I don't like salads or veggies for that matter. But what helps me is where I'm an athlete (run track & XC), I can eat, pig out, as much as I want and then I just go and run it all off. Also I do take vitamins and they help tremendously. Right now I'm at a lean 145 lbs. FUCK YEAH!

I'm on a seefood diet.

I see food, I eat it.

haha

I'm on a seefood diet.

I see food, I eat it.

Same as me. It's going really well.

goin really well for...who? for you, i'm sure it does, my man. it don't go that well for the cows, chickens, piggies and whatever other animals you devooour.. not implying anything, just that we should face the truth and think in terms of others' interests for once. How's London, by the way? Still stone cold and merciless? Cheers.

I studied nutrition and vegetarianism is soooo over-rated.

By all means don't eat too much red meat and eat plenty of fish but cutting out meat is not a healthy idea.

Soy is baaaaaad and not only because it tastes like shite.

I am not going to get into a philosophical argument but there are billions of people in cultures on the planet who have been vegetarian for centuries with no ill effects.

I am not saying that one is more healthy than the other I just don't want to anything to suffer unnecessarily. For as long as there are alternatives, I choose not to eat animals.

Anyone ever been to Korea or China or Japan? They eat so many vegetables it's not even funny! Are there fat people there? Yep. Are there many? Nope.

Since I started this topic, I feel obligated to bring my point of view to the table.

To me it's a humatarian choice as much as it's a choice for the animal being killed. It's a fact that people in wealthy countries eat to much and eat wrong, but since protein mostly just make you crap more, people are more interested in lowering their fat and carbohydrate consumtion. The thing is just that the protein is a source of starvation in the third world. The water, space and energy needed to produce meat is so much more than the same needed for soya. This is because you grow soya to feed millions of lives for a while and then you kill them and eat them instead of all that soya you put into them. I read somewhere that 90% of the soya in the US goes to the slaughter industry. There are many hungry etiopian kids around...

Concerning the animals, I am strongly against putting living creatures into a system which defines them as numbers and products. This is the same as with humans. I currently substitute a lot on kindergartens where I live and on this one place the settle the sizes of the groups by giving the children points (a 3 years old is worth one, a 5 years old 1.5 and this one kid with ADHD is worth 2 or 3 or something). It's terrible! The system is a limitation in creating a real communication with the children. Treating animals in a certain way tend to show our views on peoples values to.

in the 1800s the american slaves gained their freedom. In the 1900s the women struggle for equal rights started for real. If humanity is goind to grow and learn any further we have to stop the slaughter industry!

Pigs farms in Texas, childrens factories in Bangladesh, brothels in Thailand... It's ALL THE SAME!

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Anybody ever tried an ice cream diet? So good and you lose weight! I did that shit for a week and I lost 5 lbs!

Ok..here is a fun little fact. Did you know that Native Americans in Alaska actually starved to death by just eating meat? Yes, it takes more energy for your body to digest meat than it obtains from it. Atkins?...a bunch of people relabling anorexia!!! They are starving their bodies. On the other hand...it is believed that humans would not have been able to develope such large brains without the protien obotained from meat. My point? Diversifing your diet is good! You do not have to eat meat, just make sure you get protien from another source that does not involve slaughtering animals as if they were mindles...ok I will stop here or I will not shut up.