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Biert wrote:"When I see what you're listening to on Last.fm I usually think "that's no music for a girl."
Lettuce wrote:
I once was under the effects of mind altering uh products, and had that trick played on me.
My buddy passed me the phone, and a girl I knew was barking on the other hand, and well I believed I was actually talking with a dog on the phone. Can't help but to think back to that day every time I see that picture.True story.
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If you don't grok it, drokk it!
[youtube]Y-ijRn6JORs[/youtube]
Biert wrote:"When I see what you're listening to on Last.fm I usually think "that's no music for a girl."
I'd love to be that stupid.
I saw that YouTube clip a lil while ago and I really hope it's a fake. Almost TOO stupid.
"In my opinion", religion is baseless rubbish, and religion for the sake of religion or for some kind of social management or feelgood "purpose" is an even bigger load of horseshit. Saying that we should believe in an imaginary friend because it's good for us is a load of drivel. THAT SAID, if you want to believe in it, go for it. Just don't tell me I should.
Not really, all hail the pasta monster!
"In my opinion", religion is baseless rubbish, and religion for the sake of religion or for some kind of social management or feelgood "purpose" is an even bigger load of horseshit. Saying that we should believe in an imaginary friend because it's good for us is a load of drivel. THAT SAID, if you want to believe in it, go for it. Just don't tell me I should.
Not really, all hail the pasta monster!
Lettuce wrote:
DAMN YOU NICKING MY THINGS WOMAAAAAAN <3
Good job I lurb you.
WOMEN WHO LOVE EACH OTHER FFFF
LESBIANISM IS AGAINST GODS WILL.
Oh well, m'off to hell innit.
(I'm not a lesbian)
Biert wrote:"When I see what you're listening to on Last.fm I usually think "that's no music for a girl."
Let's be lesbian with babies in a council house.
Btw Fliss and Mika have to live with us.
Btw Fliss and Mika have to live with us.
Tyroshai wrote:[youtube]Y-ijRn6JORs[/youtube]
"Hell, I'd still hit it." - Duke Nukem, 2011
"Day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you."
Lettuce wrote:Let's be lesbian with babies in a council house.
Btw Fliss and Mika have to live with us.
Ahm on mah ray.
Biert wrote:"When I see what you're listening to on Last.fm I usually think "that's no music for a girl."
Manwards wrote:Tyroshai wrote:[youtube]Y-ijRn6JORs[/youtube]
"Hell, I'd still hit it." - Duke Nukem, 2011
Damn you Facebook... I was looking for the "like" button!
For the sake of joining in on the philosophical masturbation... here are my few cents on the topic:
I don't believe in gods, religion, spirituality (in the non-secular sense), the supernatural... you name it. People are very welcome to try persuading me. I am always open to change my mind.. but on the basis of evidence. And as natural explanations seem to be replacing supernatural ones a lot more (LOTS vs zero I believe), atheism, agnosticism, materialism, naturalism, humanism, secularism... and so on, is where I stand.
I'm pretty cool with that actually. Growing up, people pretty much dropped dead every fourth year or so, so it sucks in the sense that I don't think I'll be seeing any of those people ever again. However, I don't like the implications of an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient (hurrr) being that doesn't do shit as far as I can tell. Yeah. Unicorns brah.
I don't believe in gods, religion, spirituality (in the non-secular sense), the supernatural... you name it. People are very welcome to try persuading me. I am always open to change my mind.. but on the basis of evidence. And as natural explanations seem to be replacing supernatural ones a lot more (LOTS vs zero I believe), atheism, agnosticism, materialism, naturalism, humanism, secularism... and so on, is where I stand.
I'm pretty cool with that actually. Growing up, people pretty much dropped dead every fourth year or so, so it sucks in the sense that I don't think I'll be seeing any of those people ever again. However, I don't like the implications of an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient (hurrr) being that doesn't do shit as far as I can tell. Yeah. Unicorns brah.
Peas and love.
when i was 10, i started going to church and became a christian. i put up with a lot of crap about how i needed to quit listening to rock music and stop dressing like a boy and was fed a lot of junk that i didn't buy even then. i still have residual beliefs in a god of sorts, but the part of me that still believes leans toward gnosticism while the rest of me is a solid nihilist. i converter to catholicism in 2010 because... i've wanted to for years. i ended up hanging around a good church to go through the process in where nobody really looked at me weird for having a mohawk at my confirmation. i like that catholicism is not afraid of human suffering like so many other types of christian. it's a good basic framework for me to.. well... not really hold to at all, but i like that it's at my disposal when i'm so inclined. the symbolism speaks to me unlike any other religion i've encountered and the history/theology is so vast and lush. i'll never run out of interesting corners to hole up in and ponder whether i believe that particular dogma or not. it's a brilliant fantasy world.
there's a gigantic difference between faith or spirituality and religion. i don't mean to say i was some kind of child genius who was enlightened about the higher workings of the universe, but i never really went for religion and there was always a gut-feeling aspect to it. i was the little shit in sunday school who didn't see why evolution wasn't just god's creative process. i got the concept of god existing outside of our space and time. i've spent the last 18 years learning about religion and faith through study and practice and at this point, i mostly agree that religion is harmful. however, i do believe that ritual is important. we all have rituals. some people just brush their teeth before taking a leak in the morning or vice versa, some people's entire lives are one deeply ingrained ritual after another. i think a solid goal for all... let's just say non-atheists... is to make religion YOUR tool, not to become a tool of religion. step on it, break it, do it all wrong, never respect it too highly. it has a lot to offer people who believe in whatever, but there's a lot of potential to get caught up in it. i've had periods where i thought i was literally hearing the voice of god, but in hindsight, i was having some kind of mild "psychotic break" and it was my survival instinct kicking in, but taking on the face of god because it was something powerful that i would shut the fuck up and listen to at the time. my experiences with what i would call "religious ecstasy" were nearly identical to the high i used to feel when i would cut or burn myself. not to insinuate that religion = self-destruction (though it can....), but i've been up for way too long and i'm having trouble further articulating this. you probably know what i'm getting at. that realization was an important one and it demonstrates balance quite perfectly to me. something that's usually perceived as very positive is really just the same as something that's usually seen as negative. i'm a big fan of balance and indulging in both that positive and the negative when it's appropriate to do so. you can't know one without the other and that's something that's often beat out of people by religion.
i miss the good old days when i had a mostly blind faith because to think that the "god" is a completely unfathomable thing, entity, whatever you want to call it, that's lonely to me. i don't believe in an afterlife anymore. i wish i could shit or get of the pot - believe or not. fucking pick one, man. it's a goddamned pain in the ass havig it so ingrained into me, but at the same time, i like that my mind has opened to other possibilities and pathways that lead closer to truth. my younger self would never have dreamed of considering drugs and, for lack of a better word, insanity as routes to truth. music has always been my primary way of... i guess communicating with whatever's out there. there are distinct places where i feel closer to some kind of spiritual union. i begin to feel seriously fucked up if i go too long without visiting the beach. i think my background with religion and inability to NOT believe is an asset in the life i ended up living. i really enjoy the thought that maybe i'm not just a collection of molecules because if i'm not capable of anything sort of transcendence in this life, there's no other life in which to reach it.
all that said, my residual beliefs and remaining adherences have not stopped me from pursuing life. i don't feel guilty for being non-monogamous, i don't feel guilty for doing drugs, i don't feel obliged to be sickly sweet to every poor fucking soul i encounter. i have a weirdly strong set of personal morals and the rely more on how i treat people i care about, the world around me and maintaining my own well being and there's a lot of grey area to allow for individual situations, unlike most sets of religious rules.
tl;dr, it's all bullshit, but humans are dumb and most of them need something to cling to or to blame or to strive toward when they die because life basically sucks a fat bag of dicks. when they start getting all SRS BSNS about it, shit goes down. i'm on jung and campbell's team. archetypes, man. if i go too far in describing what i actually feel about the idea of god, i either become incoherent because i can't explain it, or it's a bunch of hippy-dippy psychobabble. not that this entire post wasn't a load of hippy dippy psychobabble.....
i really like this thread. i hope it stays open.
there's a gigantic difference between faith or spirituality and religion. i don't mean to say i was some kind of child genius who was enlightened about the higher workings of the universe, but i never really went for religion and there was always a gut-feeling aspect to it. i was the little shit in sunday school who didn't see why evolution wasn't just god's creative process. i got the concept of god existing outside of our space and time. i've spent the last 18 years learning about religion and faith through study and practice and at this point, i mostly agree that religion is harmful. however, i do believe that ritual is important. we all have rituals. some people just brush their teeth before taking a leak in the morning or vice versa, some people's entire lives are one deeply ingrained ritual after another. i think a solid goal for all... let's just say non-atheists... is to make religion YOUR tool, not to become a tool of religion. step on it, break it, do it all wrong, never respect it too highly. it has a lot to offer people who believe in whatever, but there's a lot of potential to get caught up in it. i've had periods where i thought i was literally hearing the voice of god, but in hindsight, i was having some kind of mild "psychotic break" and it was my survival instinct kicking in, but taking on the face of god because it was something powerful that i would shut the fuck up and listen to at the time. my experiences with what i would call "religious ecstasy" were nearly identical to the high i used to feel when i would cut or burn myself. not to insinuate that religion = self-destruction (though it can....), but i've been up for way too long and i'm having trouble further articulating this. you probably know what i'm getting at. that realization was an important one and it demonstrates balance quite perfectly to me. something that's usually perceived as very positive is really just the same as something that's usually seen as negative. i'm a big fan of balance and indulging in both that positive and the negative when it's appropriate to do so. you can't know one without the other and that's something that's often beat out of people by religion.
i miss the good old days when i had a mostly blind faith because to think that the "god" is a completely unfathomable thing, entity, whatever you want to call it, that's lonely to me. i don't believe in an afterlife anymore. i wish i could shit or get of the pot - believe or not. fucking pick one, man. it's a goddamned pain in the ass havig it so ingrained into me, but at the same time, i like that my mind has opened to other possibilities and pathways that lead closer to truth. my younger self would never have dreamed of considering drugs and, for lack of a better word, insanity as routes to truth. music has always been my primary way of... i guess communicating with whatever's out there. there are distinct places where i feel closer to some kind of spiritual union. i begin to feel seriously fucked up if i go too long without visiting the beach. i think my background with religion and inability to NOT believe is an asset in the life i ended up living. i really enjoy the thought that maybe i'm not just a collection of molecules because if i'm not capable of anything sort of transcendence in this life, there's no other life in which to reach it.
all that said, my residual beliefs and remaining adherences have not stopped me from pursuing life. i don't feel guilty for being non-monogamous, i don't feel guilty for doing drugs, i don't feel obliged to be sickly sweet to every poor fucking soul i encounter. i have a weirdly strong set of personal morals and the rely more on how i treat people i care about, the world around me and maintaining my own well being and there's a lot of grey area to allow for individual situations, unlike most sets of religious rules.
tl;dr, it's all bullshit, but humans are dumb and most of them need something to cling to or to blame or to strive toward when they die because life basically sucks a fat bag of dicks. when they start getting all SRS BSNS about it, shit goes down. i'm on jung and campbell's team. archetypes, man. if i go too far in describing what i actually feel about the idea of god, i either become incoherent because i can't explain it, or it's a bunch of hippy-dippy psychobabble. not that this entire post wasn't a load of hippy dippy psychobabble.....
i really like this thread. i hope it stays open.
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