Woah! Good lord, it's a cheeseburger!!!
#265453 by mak0r
Mon May 09, 2011 12:36 am
Thanks Dev, Decon got me into a fight with my girlfriend. Still worth it somehow...

I'm through once, and I have to say it doesn't happen often that I have to go back a couple of seconds on the first listened, because I thought "Wait what? What just happended there?". Really challenging, but the first impression is very positive. Can't wait until it has fully opened itself to me.

Btw. come back to Europe please! And make a stop in Munich! I need to see your new stuff live :D
#265455 by Lolliklauer
Mon May 09, 2011 12:44 am
The Dev wrote:Also, the humor is aimed at the philosophical and musical 'elite' ... the quickest way to piss of some pretentious asshole is to make a fart joke.

Fart jokes = 'fuck all y'all' :)


Worked for me and my philosophical elitism... ;-)

For me, Deconstruction sounds like a huge "Devin vs. Devin" ego-trip - it gives a fuck about what people expect or what they want to hear, but it is teasing them (us) by showing how "great" it could have been for them and that it's not satisfying all needs just for purpose (i.e. the need for the highly aggressive, paranoid, "Shitstorm"-stuff). Getting the best metal singers together, two fantastic drummers, a choir, an orchestra, a known engineer - and then "ruining" it all with a few silly seconds of fart jokes (and some other elements)... For people who take "metal" very serious this record may be quite an insult, it may sound like it's making fun out of everything a "metal" fan sees himself standing for. It makes it even more painful that so many "heroes" of serious metal are on it and that the record is technically absolutely stunning. If it would have been just a lame parody, it would have been easy to ignore. I imagine a soccer game with the best legendary players of all time in a big match - and to see them finally playing with all their technical brilliance (a dream of every soccer fan comes true), but then they play with three goals and mixing teams every 5 minutes. That would make a soccer-fan think: what do i like about soccer? Maybe it's a bad comparison but thats how it feels to me at the moment.

So i think i understand now why Devin has explained his intentions so widely. I think it will stimulate the self-reflection why we love heavy music, what makes it heavy for us and what we do with it. It's hard to just ignore it - like every good piece of art it will cause many discussions, reflection and thinking. And i think that the "ego-trip" thing is necessary for creating such a piece of art.

At the moment i highly respect it and i am curious how it will end up for me. Or i could just fuck off.
#265456 by antikythera
Mon May 09, 2011 12:46 am
Fair enough then. I have to say I'm relieved. You would have broken my heart if you became a Bible-thumping born-again right before releasing your purportedly heaviest album. =]

Definitely enjoying my second listen a lot more, it's starting to click perhaps.
#265457 by goshflardon
Mon May 09, 2011 12:47 am
The Dev wrote:Planet Of The Apes is supposed to be in third person during the god part...

And I'm actually quite bewildered that people don't think it's heavy... I guess my definition of the term has changed.

Also, the humor is aimed at the philosophical and musical 'elite' ... the quickest way to piss of some pretentious asshole is to make a fart joke.

Fart jokes = 'fuck all y'all' :)


I'm 36, I have 2 kids. I used to be a recording engineer but now work for a bank. It's heavy.

In a musical and thematical perspective real heavy. Probably not "chugga-chugga-angry-kid-with-a-new-amp"-heavy. It's dense in a way you get when you condence 20 years in 71 minutes. It actually made me emotional just because it's so damn good. It's even more than I expected. I wasn't this high over a record since I was a little kid.

I *can* wait for Ghost. I know it will be sweet.

I will pre-order and re-order all you can push out. You should be able to do this for a living, but remember to live a life at home as well. Thanks Dev for doing Decon. It's overly great. Don't ever do it again. Do other stuff.
#265460 by The Dev
Mon May 09, 2011 12:53 am
No don't fuck off... thats perfect in a lot of ways.

However, it's not meant as an insult, at all.

It's about finding through the ego trip what metal truly has meant to me, and the answer I think was 'creative freedom'

No other genre allows this liberty I don't think.

And as much as it may not make sense to some (many), It's exactly what I wanted to hear from metal at this age. I'm sorry if that need for self expression manifested through a musical genre that has (maybe falsely) been attributed to freedom comes across as an insult, because it's ABSOLUTELY not meant to be.

I think that religion, metal, philosophy, conspiracy ... everything really, takes itself really seriously, and perhaps overlooks in some cases that manifesting artistic freedom for no other reasons than 'It feels right to go in this direction, after all the mistakes etc...' doesn't need any deep thought.

I love metal, and the reasons that I do is because it allows me a creative liberty and visceral power to say these things that other music does not.
#265461 by The Dev
Mon May 09, 2011 1:01 am
However, through all this pontificating...Deconstruction is only half of the story, and a quarter of the project. Please keep that in mind.

oh, and
You would have broken my heart if you became a Bible-thumping born-again right before releasing your purportedly heaviest album. =]


...good lord, no.

All the religious lyrics are from the point of view of one side of the character fighting with the other. Being raised in a Christian country instills many of us with a subconscious guilt that I felt needed to be addressed. I think it's healthy to truly take your fears apart to figure out how to manage them sometimes.

I do believe that there is more to this reality than just me though. And accountability beyond just ourselves is essential I think. I believe that I am fortunate to be a part of an infinite mosaic in which I am no more or less important than anything else. I'm humbled to be involved, and thrilled to not understand.
#265465 by Telescopes Are Gay
Mon May 09, 2011 1:14 am
I never understood metal "elitism" at all. You get people who say Subgenre X is more "true" than Subgenre Y as if their subjective opinions are objective truths. I remember at the turn of the millenium, metalitists, as like i to call them, were foaming at the mouth over the rise of nu-metal/rap rock/grunge metal and saying it wasn't "true" metal. They were almost threatened by it, as if "true" metal was going the way of the dinosaurs. To them, the metal genre is defined by a tiny, rigid criteria that by it's nature, limits that creative freedom.

I mean, let's face it, we all rip off Meshuggah anyway. :)
#265468 by Augmented9th
Mon May 09, 2011 1:19 am
StijnP wrote:
And I'm actually quite bewildered that people don't think it's heavy... I guess my definition of the term has changed.


It's heavy, but just not as aggressive as syl used to be be.


Also, it's heavy, but not crunchy guitars, driving bass and rigid 4/4 time heavy. Which I tend to prefer, but I'm simple like that. Probably why I prefer Addicted over this.

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