Woah! Good lord, it's a cheeseburger!!!
#265429 by The Dev
Sun May 08, 2011 11:40 pm
I view it as a non issue as far as the whole trip goes. I really like making stuff to hear, and it validates it when people dig it. Seriously, it's fun. As well, when there's legit complaints, I like to think people know what NOT to support if they don't want it.

I make music for people to hear. It sucks that I have to charge for it at all, but you know... it costs a fucking fortune to do this dumb shit for a living, so there it is. The adult in me stresses about money, the musician doesn't give a fuck.

My music has sold about the same every record, so I get the impression that everyone who has supported (or most) buy it to allow me to keep doing it, so yeah... the sooner they can hear it, the cooler it is. Will the fanbase grow? Well yeah, I'm guessing so... and the amount of opposing views on the music actually gets peoples attention who have never heard of what I do, and I'm thinking it will crest right around the time the record comes out and It'll be cool.

But tbh, the whole 'downloading vs not downloading' thing is so played out, it's ridiculous. I really, truly, honestly am tired of the whole thing. Everyone has an opinion with their own personal investment into it, but the industry is so bent out of shape about it, that I personally take the 'fuck it, download it all' stance. That way, the people who want me to keep doing it can support it, and the people that have a personal agenda in telling other folks what a douche I am don't have as much to complain about.

So yeah, for the final time, I don't give a rats ass about downloading. If I'm meant to pay off my mortgage and be wealthy, then great. I make music because I think it's cool.

Music isn't as big a deal as it's marketed as, and money is stupid.

Whats for dinner?
#265430 by The Dev
Sun May 08, 2011 11:44 pm
Planet Of The Apes is supposed to be in third person during the god part...

And I'm actually quite bewildered that people don't think it's heavy... I guess my definition of the term has changed.

Also, the humor is aimed at the philosophical and musical 'elite' ... the quickest way to piss of some pretentious asshole is to make a fart joke.

Fart jokes = 'fuck all y'all' :)
#265434 by mrbean667
Sun May 08, 2011 11:51 pm
There seem to be quite a few fart jokes in the album...
I gotta say, hearing about them at first made me feel a little weird, but Dev's explanation clears it up.

Praise The Lowered is the only track I've allowed myself to listen to, it's fuckin killer.
#265436 by Octillus
Sun May 08, 2011 11:53 pm
The heaviness thing is crushing to me. The point of existence vs. random gore/dismemberment or killing fucking dragons?


Anyway Dev, good on you, for the fart jokes. If the whole album is dissecting the human experience only to realize you've gone so far up your own ass, that you've missed it, there's nothing more humanizing than the fact that we all fart and do stupid things that while scientifically make sense, are still mindless senseless actions.

I mean here we are in 2011, and we still poot.
#265437 by The Dev
Sun May 08, 2011 11:58 pm
I knew that by doing the orchestra choir thing, I'd get the attention of a bunch of insecure musicians that have problems with anybody attempting it. There's this overwhelming sense of elitism in terms of the musical and philosophical angles I've always been interested in. This sense of self importance that comes along with being self aware.

The character in the intro of Deconstruction is a 'philosopher' who's so full of himself that he is oblivious to the fact that as a human, the biological elements of his being connect his to the most rudimentary things during the 'lofty search for the meanings of life'

The original skit included a lady philosopher who in the midst of the debate, drops a baby out of her body...

No one is above the base stuff, humour is the last refuge of the damned? I dunno... I just figure that what I needed to say was pretty interesting (to me), and I wanted to a) discourage the beret wearing crowd from thinking I give a shit and b) get people to listen to it under the guise that it was 'light and breezy'.
#265441 by The Dev
Mon May 09, 2011 12:06 am
Ha!

I'm not as obsessed with it as it may come across... it just really is a great way to say 'fuck you' to people that won't listen to what I'm trying to say.

well maybe not fuck you, but while they're trying to tell me whatever it is they feel they need to tell me, I'll just drop a fart sample or two until they call me a child and leave.

:)
#265442 by Augmented9th
Mon May 09, 2011 12:08 am
That reminds me of a comment I know someone made that the reason they didn't like Ziltoid because it didn't take itself seriously as an album.

That's precisely the reason I love that record.

And I got the feeling that there's elements of Decon that takes the piss out of itself too.
#265444 by Faffy
Mon May 09, 2011 12:16 am
One of the most baffling questions, I think (which people have asked me quite a lot during my life :P ): "Is this serious, or is this a joke?". Fuck... it's both! It's neither! What? Why? Why do some feel the need to separate the two? Why does it have to be either of them? Pooooo.
Oh yeah. Deep. 8)
#265445 by The Dev
Mon May 09, 2011 12:18 am
Some argue that no one takes it seriously at all as a result of the humour, but the things that screwed the prior records up in the past were an intense 'seriousness' that I can't help but think as being really dramatic and ridiculous as I got older.

I think I feel all this stuff on two levels, one is profoundly connected to whatever it is that It's connected to, and the other things it's all pretty hilarious.

Again, thats the point of the whole dtp 4 record thing. Look too close, become too absorbed, and I often lose sight of what's really going on.
#265449 by coreylondon
Mon May 09, 2011 12:29 am
I think my favorite thing about this record is how it sounds like it's always on the verge of either imploding from the inside, or derailing straight off the tracks. But If you give it time and energy and really get inside of it you can tell it will never get there. A controlled and wise hand is pushing you straight through hell.

The structure is completely beyond anything in the rest of his records. These aren't "rock and roll songs." These are pulsating, transmogrifying, monolithic movements. All tainted with self-awareness. I love how it devolves into flatulence and nods to the audience with "oh, we're not finished yet are we?" Making jokes about your own work WHILE you're in the middle of recording it shows just how deep this self-awareness goes.

It sounds as if he took SYL, threw it on the floor, injected it with Ziltoidian cheese and mashed it around with his feet, then pulled it up and injected a symphony to keep it afloat.

Dev, I'm happy about the farts too. They make me smile.

I'll treasure this shit.
#265450 by Kurt
Mon May 09, 2011 12:33 am
I've spent some time staring at the deconstruction artwork, and I'm a little confused... Is the heart suppost to be a humain heart? It looks like the anterior vena cava is connected to the pulimonary trunk, and I only see one atrium... (the aortic arch also looks like it's connected to the right ventricle). Is this suppost to be a some other animals heart, or is it suppost to be drawn this aqwardly?
#265451 by antikythera
Mon May 09, 2011 12:34 am
Just finished my first listen, and I don't think I get it yet. Listening to it again.

Devin's definitely not talking about Yahweh, though. From the lyrics about god in The Mighty Masturbator, I get the vibe of a purely memetic and abstract god. Which is fine by me, and interesting. But it's difficult to know if I'm just imprinting my own atheist, materialist philosophical interests on the work, so I'm reserving judgment. I'm trying not be a "beret-wearing" pretentious philosopher, haha.

I've got to say though, I love the albums that take themselves serious a lot more. That's why I love, love OM and AE and KI, even though I don't think even Devin is a huge fan of AE. I wasn't a huge fan of Ziltoid for a long time; it took me a few years to really get it. Now I really, really love Color Your World and The Greys, they might be my favorite two songs depending on the day. I still can't get into the rest of it... But I'm an extremely serious person, probably embarrassingly so, definitely to a fault. I'm the type with extremely lofty philosophical and academic goals (determining if the universe is fundamentally computable, axiomatizing physics...), and I have trouble wasting my time with the average human. Pretty pretentious when you get down to it, I guess. But not unjustifiably.

What I'm trying to say is, as of right now, I can't get behind the farts. But I'm pretty much a tight-ass, so I guess it's to be expected.

Currently on Juular and really enjoying it again.

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