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#258631 by ppinkham
Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:27 pm
UFO's, ghosts, cryptids, etc. Anyone else interested in these phenomena?

Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels. I do not believe these creatures exist, but I believe that the possibility exists. More fascinating to me is that if they truly do not exist, what makes so many people claim they do? Some folks obviously want attention, but then some I have interviewed made me promise not to tell a soul.

I used to investigate sightings and reports as a hobby some years ago, and was a part of a few different research organizations. I've talked to many, many "eyewitnesses" and have seen a lot of physical "evidence." Some quite convincing, while some...not so much. lol Back in my early teens, I myself had an experience while vacationing on Shasta Lake in California. I found two sets of trackways leading deep into the forest, and I followed them for a while. That same night, I heard some ungodly screaming coming from the same vicinity. Very human-like, but far louder, and more resonant. I grew up in the outdoors, but had never heard anything like that.

Still, I could find ways to explain it, and since I actually never saw anything, it could have been, well, anything. I'm a very skeptical person by nature, anyway.

I know that people are seeing things they believe to be sasquatch. Whether it is a misidentification, hallucination, or just plain imaginary, I don't know. There is a lot of evidence out there, though some is obviously manufactured, and the rest is inconclusive. Still, the whole thing interests me.

And then there is this damned film:

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This thing continues to be analyzed and debated 44 years later. As many scientists and experts that claim it is an obvious fake, there are just as many that claim that there is no way it could have been faked. "It's a man in a suit!" "No one had the ability to make a suit back then that showed all that musculature." "I was the guy in the suit!" "Where is the suit?" It just keeps going.

Anyone else have interests in this kind of stuff?
#258637 by Billy Rhomboid
Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:11 pm
ppinkham wrote: That same night, I heard some ungodly screaming coming from the same vicinity. Very human-like, but far louder, and more resonant. I grew up in the outdoors, but had never heard anything like that.


Hmm, there's an underwear-soiling moment. You didn't find any little twig figures hanging outside your tent the next morning did you?
#258638 by Aden
Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:22 pm
tl;dr - Yes, I find that kind of thing quite interesting too.

Yeah, I've always found this stuff pretty interesting too, though probably not on the same level as you.

I remember when I first found out about the Jersey Devil when I was a kid, and being young and gullible, at first I just thought it was real, and freaky. But i've not really given any of them much thought since. Some are too far fetched for me to believe, but you never know.

I do believe in "aliens" though. It's always a funny sounding sentence that, but referring to extra terrestrials as aliens means you don't necessarily mean those tall thin, grey, bug-eyed stereotypes. I believe there will be other creatures out in the universe... there HAS to be. Most of them will most likely just be some kind of insects or sealife-style creatures, and I think if we were to find intelligent life, they'd probably look totally different to what we could ever imagine (much like trying to visualise a "new colour" in your head. It's impossible, all you can do is conjure various shades of already existing colours... but just like the sonic spectrum goes beyond our hearing range, so does the colour/light spectrum, meaning "new" colours could be out there that we humans can't perceive)

But then again, why couldn't these tall, thin, grey stereotyped aliens exist? Earth would be a pretty interesting study, and I'm sure they'd love to come visit. We'd be hugely interested in studying another planet with just the small possibility of Bacteria existing. (We already are...)

And if they were to come visit, I'm sure they'd love to have a closer look at us - hence abductions. If they're intelligent, they could very well have morals just like us. And after some basic studying, they'd probably be able to tell we're a fearful race, and because of that may have made it top priority to cause as little harm as possible - and erasing memory would be a pretty effective method of leaving little/no harm in terms of mental trauma. But maybe it's a technology still not fully mastered by them and isn't completely fail-safe, leaving some abductees with faint memories of the whole process. It all seems logical, no matter how stupid it sounds :lol:

The ocean is like a different planet. It's somewhere that humans cannot exist, yet countless lifeforms are living there. Even basic fish are strange, with their superhuman gills that allow them to breath in water!!! There are some seriously strange, alien-like creatures in the sea. What's so hard to believe about things like those being on a different planet?

RANDOM CRITTER REPLACE: Tardigrades
"Tardigrades are able to survive in extreme environments that would kill almost any other animal. Some can survive temperatures of −273°C, close to absolute zero, temperatures as high as 151°C, 1,000 times more radiation than other animals, and almost a decade without water. In September 2007, tardigrades were taken into low Earth orbit on the FOTON-M3 mission and for 10 days were exposed to the vacuum of space. After they were returned to Earth, it was discovered that many of them survived and laid eggs that hatched normally."

WTF?! How could you not believe in aliens or other mysterious/supernatural things when THOSE things are all around us?

I also found this quite interesting when I found out about it:
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I've not done any research into it though. I have no idea if it's fake or if we now know a lot about it, maybe someone can enlighten me?
It's pretty weird though. Did that thing evolve from the tiny bacteria in our fecal matter? Ew.

(Sorry if that's not quite on-topic)

ALSO, (Sorry to bore you here...)

While I don't believe in God/Heaven etc. - I have always seemed to think there is some kind of afterlife (almost subconsciously?). For example, ever since my dad passed away, I have always lived on thinking he's watching over, from 'a nice place' in some kind of afterlife. But like I said, I don't believe in God/Heaven, so does that even make sense?

So that brings me on to Ghosts. Again, it's something I've not given much thought to, but all my life I've had a slight fear of some kind. With me not being religious, and with most explanations of how ghosts come to be saying something like "unfulfilled business - not ready to move on to heaven/hell", it would make sense for me to think "Oh well then, they can't exist" - so why do I get so 'freaked out' by the thought of them?

I watched Paranormal Activity, and for the next few days I felt uneasy walking around my own house in the dark, or every time I heard unexpected bangs/sounds. I've been like that as long as I remember, after watching/reading any kind of ghost related film/documentary/book.

I'm not sure what to think about crop circles either, because I've seen documentaries where they've shown the crops having strange differences like these, when compared to hoax crop circles.

P.S. I lost where I was in writing this many-a-time, so I apologise for the inevitably poor structure and repetition.
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#258644 by Tyroshai
Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:16 pm
Aden wrote:I also found this quite interesting when I found out about it:
[youtube]SQmFWYWqTZA[/youtube]

I've not done any research into it though. I have no idea if it's fake or if we now know a lot about it, maybe someone can enlighten me?
It's pretty weird though. Did that thing evolve from the tiny bacteria in our fecal matter? Ew.


That caught my attention a year or so ago and I was pretty sad to find out that they are in fact colonies of Tubifex worms

Check this out, it pretty much demonstrates their behaviour when out of the water:
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I was definitely hoping for the discovery of a new species (or alien, lol) amidst the ridiculous explanations :D
#258647 by JuZ
Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:34 pm
It might not be as exciting as some alien invader in our sewers, but that tubifex worm video is really cool! Amazing how they clump together out of water to form a single reflexive mass.

I'd love to believe there are alien spacecraft orbiting the Earth or that bigfoot is real, but a combo of lack of evidence and my cynicism tells me otherwise.

Weeeeeeird timing though... I had a dream I saw a bigfoot last night! :shock:
#258653 by Leechmaster
Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:13 pm
Well if you wanna talk about newly developing organisms... that discovery made last December of a bacteria that, instead of being compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus and sulfur, uses arsenic instead of phosphorus. It basically tore the concept of existence a new arsehole, really! There's never been another organism that has used a different element from the original six in it's basic compound, so it opens up whole new doors in understanding the conditions that life can spring from, both on this planet and elsewhere.

And I totally and utterly believe that there is other existence out there. What Aden said was spot on, while it is impossible to imagine what it is, it must still be there somewhere. We're tiny in the grand scale of things; there's got to be something else out there in the endless expanse of space...


Not too sold on the whole bigfoot/abominable snowman sort of things though. :lol:
#258654 by aleksi
Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:25 pm
ppinkham wrote:Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels.

I don't get it, sasquatch is just an ape at best. Most real animals are way more interesting. Take whales for example. Giant air-breathing mammals, biggest animals ever, livining underwater and communicating with each other from miles and miles apart by singing? MIND = BLOWN
#258655 by Leechmaster
Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:31 pm
aleksi wrote:
ppinkham wrote:Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels.

I don't get it, sasquatch is just an ape at best. Most real animals are way more interesting. Take whales for example. Giant air-breathing mammals, biggest animals ever, livining underwater and communicating with each other from miles and miles apart by singing? MIND = BLOWN


AND THE FUCKERS CAN JUMP

Image

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

SHOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE/ALLOWED.
#258659 by ppinkham
Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:29 pm
aleksi wrote:
ppinkham wrote:Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels.

I don't get it, sasquatch is just an ape at best. Most real animals are way more interesting. Take whales for example. Giant air-breathing mammals, biggest animals ever, livining underwater and communicating with each other from miles and miles apart by singing? MIND = BLOWN


Yeah, but I've seen them. Used to see them all the time. Even touched one. They are not a mystery to me.
#258660 by aleksi
Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:39 pm
ppinkham wrote:
aleksi wrote:
ppinkham wrote:Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels.

I don't get it, sasquatch is just an ape at best. Most real animals are way more interesting. Take whales for example. Giant air-breathing mammals, biggest animals ever, livining underwater and communicating with each other from miles and miles apart by singing? MIND = BLOWN


Yeah, but I've seen them. Used to see them all the time. Even touched one. They are not a mystery to me.

So if you found sasquatch would you lose interest in it?
#258662 by ppinkham
Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:10 pm
aleksi wrote:
ppinkham wrote:
aleksi wrote:
ppinkham wrote:Since I was a very small kid, the whole sasquatch thing has been of interest to me, on multiple levels.

I don't get it, sasquatch is just an ape at best. Most real animals are way more interesting. Take whales for example. Giant air-breathing mammals, biggest animals ever, livining underwater and communicating with each other from miles and miles apart by singing? MIND = BLOWN


Yeah, but I've seen them. Used to see them all the time. Even touched one. They are not a mystery to me.

So if you found sasquatch would you lose interest in it?


Once the mystery of it was over, and we've learned all that there is to learn, then I'm sure I would.
#258687 by JuZ
Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:45 am
Leechmaster wrote:Well if you wanna talk about newly developing organisms... that discovery made last December of a bacteria that, instead of being compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus and sulfur, uses arsenic instead of phosphorus. It basically tore the concept of existence a new arsehole, really! There's never been another organism that has used a different element from the original six in it's basic compound, so it opens up whole new doors in understanding the conditions that life can spring from, both on this planet and elsewhere.

And I totally and utterly believe that there is other existence out there. What Aden said was spot on, while it is impossible to imagine what it is, it must still be there somewhere. We're tiny in the grand scale of things; there's got to be something else out there in the endless expanse of space...


Not too sold on the whole bigfoot/abominable snowman sort of things though. :lol:


Totally agree that by sheer weight of numbers there must be an incredible amount of life out there in the universe. It frustrates the fuck out of me that I can't go visit! I'd bring cake and everything.

Wormholes and the like would eliminate the problem of how to travel the vast distances required to get here, but I can't work out what their motivation would be. Observation of a vastly undeveloped society? Maybe it's for reasons that my feeble human mind can't grasp.

I hold out a tiny bit of hope that they'll come a-knockin' in my lifetime and won't go too Mars Attacks on us... it might happen!
#258692 by Bookwyrm83
Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:16 am
There are trillions of galaxies in this universe. I would not presume we were the only planet with intelligent beings. My guess is that creatues of far more advanced science and space travel would probably find Earth one day, find what it has to offer, and say "Screw this" and go exploring elsewhere.
#258711 by Tonya Elf
Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:59 am
Yes...when I was a kid I absolutely devoured those "In Search of..." programs, hosted by Leonard Nimoy. Absolutely the best show ever, learned all about ESP, UFOs, ghosts, spontaneous human combustion, life after death...and of course, Sasquatch. Leonard Nimoy is one of my heros.
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