Yeah I've heard people giving out about it being too Divine Heresy-y... Having never heard of Divine Heresy I've no problems there so this just sounds great to me.

Well that sucked.

Better than I expected, however, if they are just going to sound like a faster Obsolete, I'd rather the name was retired.

I'm sure Gene will embarrass Ray when they play live though. I hope he rips those old songs a new one.

Better than I expected, however, if they are just going to sound like a faster Obsolete, I'd rather the name was retired.

I'm sure Gene will embarrass Ray when they play live though. I hope he rips those old songs a new one.

I read an interview with Raymon Herrera where he stated that Gene said he couldn't play some of the Fear Factory stuff.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blabberm ... /news.aspx

I'd say that whole thing of Gene saying he probably can't play the songs is just him trying to not be a dick. The guy is good, and he fucking well knows he's good enough to nail whatever the hell he likes. He'll probably give Herrera a fine slap on the wrists and ankles on the older material...

I'd say that whole thing of Gene saying he probably can't play the songs is just him trying to not be a dick. The guy is good, and he fucking well knows he's good enough to nail whatever the hell he likes. He'll probably give Herrera a fine slap on the wrists and ankles on the older material...

After hearing Gene's work on the second Dethklok album I don't have any doubts at all about anything when it comes to his drumming skillz. He is superior.

Gene did say he has a hard time playing the stuff he did on one of the Death albums... But that's him having a hard time with his own stuff.

The last two FF albums showed Raymond takin' the easier route as far as his drumming goes... Not as impressive as it used to be. I agree Gene said what he did to Raymond out of appreciation, not for it to later be used against him.

Can't really say who's better. Gene has a quite big respect for Ray and that's really cool.

I think Gene has greater experience, but Raymond is a freakin fast machine, so it's really hard to say... Let's wait on the whole album.

Better than I expected, however, if they are just going to sound like a faster Obsolete, I'd rather the name was retired.

I'm sure Gene will embarrass Ray when they play live though. I hope he rips those old songs a new one.

I read an interview with Raymon Herrera where he stated that Gene said he couldn't play some of the Fear Factory stuff.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blabberm ... /news.aspx

I took the "can't" in that sentence to read "won't". The proof is in the pudding and we will find out when they do a show. However, given Gene's legacy and anything Ray has recorded, anyone who knows anything about drumming shouldn't even consider that an argument.
Gene is one of the nicest guys I've ever met. I have spoken to him on a number of occasions and found him to be nothing but genuine, modest, humble and a pleasure to converse with. He wouldn't toot his own horn in an interview. You can't argue with his catalogue and historical significance though. He's a living legend and deserves to be revered as such. Most importantly, he deserves to get paid.

"Mechanize" track listing:

01. Mechanize
02. Industrial Discipline
03. Fear Campaign
04. Powershifter
05. Christploitation
06. Oxidizer
07. Controlled Demolition
08. Designing The Enemy
09. Metallic Division
10. Final Exit

Regarding the new album's lyrical approach, Bell stated, "In the past, the lyrical concept was of a futuristic, 'sci-fi' nature. An attempt to protect the ideas and logic of those involved in FEAR FACTORY; because those who incite progressive thought are always chastised and persecuted. By placing the 'story' into a futuristic, fictional narrative, the words and ideas may not have seemed threatening. Not so for 'Mechanize'. These are the words of a reality that once seemed distant, that are now apparently, and evidently real. These are the words of the world in which we live; for what once seemed like a story of another time, has come to be our reality today. Welcome to the world of 'Mechanize'."

"Mechanize" track-by-track guide by Burton C. Bell:

01. Mechanize

Bell: "The title track describes our world as the soulless program that it is.
Every part serves a purpose. There is no such concept as individuality within the
machine. We have carved our place inside the machine. We have grown banal
within our apathy. We have become mechanized."

02. Industrial Discipline

Bell: "The term was taken from the book 'The Third Wave'. It explains the path in which the industrial complex, and it's construct, initiated the path of conformity. Everyone worked for the benefit of the machine, not for themselves. The discipline begins in mass education, determining time and placement, superiors and subordinates, rank and file. Humanity has been disciplined to do the work for the machine, therefore becoming the machine."

02. Fear Campaign

Bell: "It was not necessary to camouflage the insanity of the world of today within a science fiction setting. The world today has become the world that writers predicted long ago. The controlling authorities are constantly, and successfully, utilizing the fear tactic to control the masses, through misinformation and distraction. Fear is bondage. Fear is slavery. Fear is Hell. Fear is control."

04. Powershifter

Bell: "Change is an inevitable course in nature and humanity. This world has seen much change as of late, and it is true globally, nationally, and personally. This is a true story of a personal struggle against a controlling and ineffectual organization. There is always a choice, and the choice is never easy."

05. Christploitation

Bell: "Christianity has become a parody of itself. Through the ages, exploitation of myths, words, and the use of the fear tactic, have ruled the masses. We have seen so much death and destruction in the name of a man made god that it means nothing. What is faith, but the belief in an archaic superstition; an overwhelming fear to face reality of the world today. Invoking the name of Christ has become a common practice The original concept does not apply. This is control through conformity and a false sense of morality."

06. Oxidizer

Bell: "One molecule of oxygen can alter the course of the world. It can start the deterioration slowly through rust, or it can quickly incinerate everything in
it's path. Either way, change is going to happen. This is about the trial by fire."

07. Controlled Demolition

Bell: "So many questions, so many lies, so perfect a destruction. All one has to do is consider the theories. Why is it so difficult to believe that our elected officials are above destructive corruption? History has proved that absolute control through violence and deception is a common theme. Consider the alternative thought, and you may see there is truth behind the False Flag."

08. Designing The Enemy

Bell: "Everything that occurs is a direct consequence of our own actions, creations, and manifestations. The machine that creates will ultimately be our demise. It is coming, the future is here."

09. Metallic Division

Bell: "The rhythm of mechanical death..."

10. Final Exit

Bell: "Based on the organization of the same name. A group of individuals with enough compassion to assist those who are interested in 'self-deliverance' from their intolerable pain. Is it compassion that drives the ability to help one commit suicide? This is a statement about the world in which we live, when the only cure for cancer, AIDS, MS ( and any other debilitating disease ) is death. Where is compassion to to assist our fellow human being in their time of unbearable pain, to keep them alive without hope of survival? Where is the compassion to find a cure, or to eliminate the diseases entirely? There is no profit in the cure... only pain and suffering."

*** "Powershifter" *** lyrics:

Feared your control and excessive greed
Abuse of your power disgraced me
You want war
You got war
More than you bargained for
I damn you and leave defiantly
Cut you out and take it all with me
You want war
You got war
More than you bargained for
Always question authority, control my own destiny
Forcing change, breaking free
From the gears of the machine
Changing my world so I can live
Execution powershift
I will forge my place in this time
Contention is sharply refined
I will expose you and force your demise
To take control of what is truly mine

The song didn't do much for me on the first listen, it wasn't bad, but it didn't bowl me over either. At the same time though, I feel the same way about a lot of Fear Factory songs that are on albums I rate very highly, and it's good enough that I have high hopes for the album as a whole.

I do like the whole machine gun drum & guitar thing that the track has going on. It's one of the things I've always liked about their music. The drums are top notch.
Will definitely be purchasing when it comes out

07. Controlled Demolition

Bell: "So many questions, so many lies, so perfect a destruction. All one has to do is consider the theories. Why is it so difficult to believe that our elected officials are above destructive corruption? History has proved that absolute control through violence and deception is a common theme. Consider the alternative thought, and you may see there is truth behind the False Flag."

This is gonna be very intresting song... just like the whole album.

Mnemic still slays them.

Mnemic still slays them.

lolololololol

That's funny.

Mnemic still slays them.

I know Mnemic have a few pretty good songs, but Fear Factory's "Demanufacture" level is impossible for many bands to this day.

Album like "Soul Of a New Machine" would crush 90% of today's metal bands... but that's just my humble opinion.