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#215858 by mushroom
Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:06 am
I had some kind of orgasms with that video, is that weirdo?

anyway, that section at 1:10... glorius, keep it that way dan!
#215975 by daneulephus
Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:50 pm
mushroom wrote:I had some kind of orgasms with that video, is that weirdo?

anyway, that section at 1:10... glorius, keep it that way dan!


Was it because of my dashing good looks? Oh, you mean the riff. :lol: It's not weird, considering how I feel about Devin's music at times. But, it is weird to think about any of my music having that effect!

It's hard to be objective looking from the inside out.
#216112 by ryanlkab
Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:52 pm
BrunoN wrote:Yup, riffage in the end part is excellent. Shred is pretty hard to judge, such things usually sound bad without context. BTW Dan, fix the lastfm link in your sig, should be http://www.lastfm.pl/music/The+Omega+Experiment


lol, I clicked that link and I cant read any of it... Its all polish or sumthin :wink:
#216874 by daneulephus
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:01 pm
Hey all,

I just finished a Stimulus vocal teaser that I will post at school tomorrow around 10-10:30am. I will post when it is done...

It sounds really good, and is a minute long. I am sure you will all like it. Very layered... :D And POWERFUL.
#217532 by daneulephus
Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:49 pm
Thank you all for your kind and supporting words this last few days. I think I am closer to getting over it...

I reckon the best option to deal with my frustrations is number 3. If you have no clue what I am talking about, see our myspace blog:

Hello all, Dan here.

I know it has only been a day since I posted the Stimulus vocal teaser, but I feel the need to air my thoughts and frustrations. We have received both positive, negative, and constructive criticism from good people about it. Alot of people don't like the the actual tone or sound of the vocals, some people think it goes along with the music too much, and others don't like it because they are so used to the instrumental. Others think we can do no wrong! ;) I have shared your concerns, and that is why I am so confused. I am second guessing myself to the max...

I didn't realize how emotional of a journey this would be, and how insecure I would find myself. This shit takes alot of work, and anything less than total worship hurts. I realize it is not realistic to think otherwise. The reason I am conflicted is because I (along with Ryan) am starting to think it may have been a bad idea to air out our music before we were totally done with it. Or at least, before vocals were present. Now expectations are insanely high, and I almost feel like I am letting others make decisions for me. Don't get me wrong, I ASKED for your opinions...and that may have been a mistake. This process hasn't been as fun for awhile now, because when people actually started to care, I have been way too worried about pleasing everyone. That is not realistic either. In the beginning there were no expectations except our own, and it was fun. We don't make money off of this, so it is for the pure enjoyment of making music. If it isn't fun, what do we have?

I am not the only one that has put an insane amount of effort into this. Ryan has climbed mountains for this, Victor has given tons of his time and energy thus far, Bob has contributed his advice, musical know-how, time, and equipment. Jeremy has given his two cents, voice and advice. All for the love of the music...

So there a few options. 1: Continue writing the demos, posting them, and posting vocal teasers and taking advice 2: Continue our work, but forget about posting anything until it is finished 3: Take down all instrumental demos, stop posting them, and only leave up and post tracks/teasers with vocals 4: Give up

Now, I am very interested in your thoughts on this. Considering all we have given you thus far...you should definitely have an opinion on the matter. But, the choice will ultimately be up to us...:) Don't worry. I doubt it will be option 4.

Please drop us a comment...

Love,
Dan
#217536 by soundsofentropy
Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:06 pm
So, I dig the tunes, for the most part. I'm not crazy about the Styx-like qualities of the vocals or even the vocal lines, particularly, but I am the composer here? No. If it were my music, I'd probably do it a little differently, but it isn't mine. It's yours. Having had a (mostly instrumental) taste of the tunes, I'm fine with it going away until it's finished. It adds more mystery for the listener and lets the music make a complete statement rather than fragmented block-by-block contributions to the whole. Best wishes on the whole project. Obviously, let us know how it goes. :D

Also, what you're experiencing now is the reason I've never really shared my music, I think. It's not refined enough, played well enough, recorded well enough, etc. for me to deal with the reactions to an unfinished product. I'm musically shy, you could say. And I need a drummer. :?
#217556 by daneulephus
Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:57 pm
soundsofentropy wrote:So, I dig the tunes, for the most part. I'm not crazy about the Styx-like qualities of the vocals or even the vocal lines, particularly, but I am the composer here? No. If it were my music, I'd probably do it a little differently, but it isn't mine. It's yours. Having had a (mostly instrumental) taste of the tunes, I'm fine with it going away until it's finished. It adds more mystery for the listener and lets the music make a complete statement rather than fragmented block-by-block contributions to the whole. Best wishes on the whole project. Obviously, let us know how it goes. :D

Also, what you're experiencing now is the reason I've never really shared my music, I think. It's not refined enough, played well enough, recorded well enough, etc. for me to deal with the reactions to an unfinished product. I'm musically shy, you could say. And I need a drummer. :?


Thank you for your honesty. I am finding there aren't too many people in the "progressive" or "metal" world that dig Styx too much. I understand. I however, am a HUGE Styx fan. Maybe it sets us apart? I dunno. Something different I guess...

The beginning of the song sounds EXACTLY the way I had it in my head. I wanted it to totally go along with the music in cadence and melody. It is a bold statement. As far as the other parts, they were off the cuff. I think they DO go along with the music maybe a bit too much, but it's all preliminary.

I agree, I think taking down the instrumentals would be a good idea. Morten will be pissed.

:mrgreen:
#218069 by swervedriver
Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:20 am
I will not make the decision for you on how to go about releasing your songs to the world, but I'll give you my band's reasoning. Basically, for us recording is a very slow process since our daily lives are so busy and right now are recording process is separated into clear steps. Drums recording, drums editing, guitar recording (times 2) and bass recording, vocal recording (times 2/3/4), then editing/mixing/blablabla/etc. Right now the drums for several songs of our upcoming album are edited (all are recorded) for me to record guitar tracks over.

A while ago I finished recording my parts for one song and was kinda raving about how awesome I think it sounds, despite the lack of bass, vocals, or proper editing/mixing of any kind. I get carried away in my excitement of moving the recording process forward while knowing what work still remains to be done. And that's the thing: it's not yet finished, and people who don't know the song will form their opinion of the song based on such an early preview. This can lead to praise, but later on (as you're experiencing) also lead to disappointment because your envisioned final version does not line up with your early listeners' expectations.

This is why we keep previews to an absolute minimum until we're quite far in our recording process, because that way it will sound a lot like the finished product anyway. So if people like it then, they will keep liking it and if they don't.. well, they don't. Also, we don't want to have a ton of different versions of basically the same song floating around the internet. But anyway, that's how we feel, you're welcome to think otherwise. On some level I find it a little sad that we're doing a ton of work and not showing it to anyone, but then I hope the impact of the final result will be that much bigger.


Personally I find it very interesting to hear a complete song come together from drum parts, guitar parts, vocal parts, key parts, etc. so I've enjoyed the instrumental parts you put online, especially hearing Motion with and without vocals. But I can understand where you're coming from with your concerns, so taking the instrumentals offline would make sense. As for Morten... well, he could use some time off from Furor I think. :P


Oh, and inb4 tl;dr.
#218099 by daneulephus
Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:11 am
swervedriver wrote:I will not make the decision for you on how to go about releasing your songs to the world, but I'll give you my band's reasoning. Basically, for us recording is a very slow process since our daily lives are so busy and right now are recording process is separated into clear steps. Drums recording, drums editing, guitar recording (times 2) and bass recording, vocal recording (times 2/3/4), then editing/mixing/blablabla/etc. Right now the drums for several songs of our upcoming album are edited (all are recorded) for me to record guitar tracks over.

A while ago I finished recording my parts for one song and was kinda raving about how awesome I think it sounds, despite the lack of bass, vocals, or proper editing/mixing of any kind. I get carried away in my excitement of moving the recording process forward while knowing what work still remains to be done. And that's the thing: it's not yet finished, and people who don't know the song will form their opinion of the song based on such an early preview. This can lead to praise, but later on (as you're experiencing) also lead to disappointment because your envisioned final version does not line up with your early listeners' expectations.

This is why we keep previews to an absolute minimum until we're quite far in our recording process, because that way it will sound a lot like the finished product anyway. So if people like it then, they will keep liking it and if they don't.. well, they don't. Also, we don't want to have a ton of different versions of basically the same song floating around the internet. But anyway, that's how we feel, you're welcome to think otherwise. On some level I find it a little sad that we're doing a ton of work and not showing it to anyone, but then I hope the impact of the final result will be that much bigger.


Personally I find it very interesting to hear a complete song come together from drum parts, guitar parts, vocal parts, key parts, etc. so I've enjoyed the instrumental parts you put online, especially hearing Motion with and without vocals. But I can understand where you're coming from with your concerns, so taking the instrumentals offline would make sense. As for Morten... well, he could use some time off from Furor I think. :P


No need for the inb4 swervy, I read it all! I appreciate what you have shared and feel the same. I regret putting this stuff out there so soon now, but yet...I don't. Devin would have never heard it if we hadn't done it, and I wouldn't be making this post right now. But, there is a time and place, and I think right now the place for our instrumentals is to be offline. I think I may have mentioned it in the beginning that I wanted to take everything down once we got to the vocal stage. I should have saw it all coming.

So, now we have a great fan base and a bit of a foundation. If we take the instrumentals down, hopefully people will gain a new appreciation for it all once we repost with vocals. There is also much you guys haven't heard at all, and I would like you to hear the rest with vocals. I am in no hurry anymore. But, maybe that is cuz I have cut way back on the coffee. 8)
#218177 by Van Pole
Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:11 pm
I only wanted to say, that you guys at are the future of prog metal. From the compilation of demos, Omega is a pure crystal.

Motion and other songs like Paramount, or Stimulus are loved from the first listening.

The material is very fresh and it has this cosmic energy I always wanted to have in this type of music.

Just wanted to say a Big Thanks and please keep the spirit up. It's gonna be hell of a record !
#218323 by daneulephus
Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:50 am
Van Pole wrote:I only wanted to say, that you guys at are the future of prog metal. From the compilation of demos, Omega is a pure crystal.

Motion and other songs like Paramount, or Stimulus are loved from the first listening.

The material is very fresh and it has this cosmic energy I always wanted to have in this type of music.

Just wanted to say a Big Thanks and please keep the spirit up. It's gonna be hell of a record !


Aww thanks man! See, this is the main reason it was hard to take them instrumentals down. I love the compliments! But, its time for the ego to take a backseat.

The moment I pressed delete on myspace, I felt about 100 pounds lighter. Bob came over later, and the vibe was fun again, because I felt no pressure. I dunno what the future holds for new music posts, but we will figure something out to keep everyone entertained.
#219644 by daneulephus
Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:33 pm
So.....

Ugh. You guys are gonna hate me for my indecisiveness. So, forget about all that crap posted above. Ryan and I are gonna continue on as before, and increase our determination tenfold. No more bullshit. It's time to take some risks. We will keep demo-ing material with our available singers, but no more settling, and no more giving a shit what anyone thinks but us.

Speaking for myself, I am on a mission to make this project all it can be. I want to seek out dedicated and talented people to make this a full fledged band. I will stop at nothing. If it takes years, so be it....in the meantime we'll keep plugging away!!!

So, in light of sending out emails in search of musicians, I am gonna re-post Furor and Paramount tomorrow so any would-be takers can get a load of our diversity. Stimulus 1, 2 , and 3 may follow...but if they do, I will take down the vocal teaser. I have thought about that song alot, and I think I am approaching the vocals wrong...but the beginning will stay, cuz that is what I always had in my head/heart for that part.

Also, tomorrow we are gonna make a video of us previewing a bit of Gift and bits of Karma.

Sound good? Hope so. 8)

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