Face your chaos, know who you are!
#195893 by The Dev
Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:06 pm
Deconstruction is not a pleasant record...but I feel I have to do it. It's punishing, but in an unexpected way. I need to clarify Alien and Infinity.

Addicted is very very addictive. Stuck in your head...REALLY heavy. I feel I have to do that as well. It's 'fun'....(on the surface)

Both records are to prove a point, not only to the audience, but also to me. I don't feel I'll be able to reinvent myself without the purge of those two. Do I want to do heavy music? No. And thats why these two are powerful, because they're done to be accountable for the past. Will they sound good and be over the top? ...ho boy yeah...get ready.

The fourth record is similar to the mellowest parts of Ki, without any real heavy (at all), no weirdness, and a real sense of light. Might not be any drums, recorded at the beach and around the world in nature. Native flute players, ambience (not dark) and primarily acoustic guitars. Vocals will be simple with enya-ish pads. A 'spa' type record (xfm).

...I personally can't wait to do the fourth, but there's a ton of things to face before it can be actualized.

Discipline, baby!
#195897 by The Dev
Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:23 pm
You're not the only one brother, the world seems to need it. Happy to oblige.

I need a nap, personally... :)

And the fourth, no names yet...maybe 'Desert' or 'Resolve'

Who knows?

There's a record for all occasions in this quartet, and I'm good at all 4 things...I feel them all equally. The reason it's hard to do 2 and 3 is that I WILL NOT let them get the best of me, so it's a constant battle. They're like petulant 2 year olds...need to keep on it at all times, but you love them nonetheless.

All good though. Sun is out.
#195900 by mushroom
Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:55 pm
Agree, you may be tired of the chaotic kind of music, but I and other people too i guess need something that represent a certain moment of the life, not only 'cause we love your heavy riffs. I'm in, things are changing, Ki was a brake for me before some things, now deconstruction may be a perfect soundtrack of my life. Ok, i'll stop bother, time to sleep, hails.
#195902 by AlucardXIX
Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:11 pm
The Dev wrote:You're not the only one brother, the world seems to need it. Happy to oblige.

I need a nap, personally... :)

And the fourth, no names yet...maybe 'Desert' or 'Resolve'

Who knows?

There's a record for all occasions in this quartet, and I'm good at all 4 things...I feel them all equally. The reason it's hard to do 2 and 3 is that I WILL NOT let them get the best of me, so it's a constant battle. They're like petulant 2 year olds...need to keep on it at all times, but you love them nonetheless.

All good though. Sun is out.


So basically you're saying we wont get any "heavier" music from you anymore? Or just for a while? Your heavy music sounds nothing like anyone else's. The wall of sound you brought through on the SYL albums(namely Alien) is just incredible.

You need to produce an Opeth album and a Meshuggah album...I'd love to hear the outcome of that...
#195906 by HauntingTheHoly
Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:57 pm
The Dev wrote: The reason it's hard to do 2 and 3 is that I WILL NOT let them get the best of me, so it's a constant battle. They're like petulant 2 year olds...need to keep on it at all times, but you love them nonetheless.

All good though. Sun is out.


What does it mean to "get the best of you"? Has an album ever gotten the best of you before? Alien or Infinity, maybe?

When you say "clarify Alien and Infinity" (in a previous post of yours) can you elaborate on that? Are you "updating" each of their meanings to how you feel now or re-explaining what you already said back when they were made?
#195907 by Torbjørn
Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:03 pm
The Dev wrote:Deconstruction is not a pleasant record...but I feel I have to do it. It's punishing, but in an unexpected way. I need to clarify Alien and Infinity.

Addicted is very very addictive. Stuck in your head...REALLY heavy. I feel I have to do that as well. It's 'fun'....(on the surface)

Both records are to prove a point, not only to the audience, but also to me. I don't feel I'll be able to reinvent myself without the purge of those two. Do I want to do heavy music? No. And thats why these two are powerful, because they're done to be accountable for the past. Will they sound good and be over the top? ...ho boy yeah...get ready.

The fourth record is similar to the mellowest parts of Ki, without any real heavy (at all), no weirdness, and a real sense of light. Might not be any drums, recorded at the beach and around the world in nature. Native flute players, ambience (not dark) and primarily acoustic guitars. Vocals will be simple with enya-ish pads. A 'spa' type record (xfm).

...I personally can't wait to do the fourth, but there's a ton of things to face before it can be actualized.

Discipline, baby!


Go take a look at EWQL's RA program. they have another thats similar but theres some middle east and africa instruments there that I think you would like to use. Real cool stuff. I just got it. It's a lot of fun to work with.
#195908 by pastadude
Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:22 pm
I almost feel like you're unable as an artist to not be heavy. Not always in the sense of metal heavy though. (even though you usually are)

Compartively speaking, every record you've released so far has been fairly heavy; enough to whet the appetite of most metal fans, but still fairly soft on some. As soft as you get, I can't imagine a Dev record that is completely, 100% not heavy. I haven't heard Ki yet (waiting for the release!) but the preview has some kinda heavy parts in it. Enough to say, "It's still metal to be a big softee."

So honestly, as a metal fan, and a Dev fan, I'm never scared with the direction you decide to take. So far, every release I play over and over (cept Physiscist, it's not bad, it just didn't catch me like the others have) Can't wait to hear all of these records.
#195911 by The Dev
Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:46 pm
yeah to be clear:

The Rite Of Spring is a perfect example of a complicated, heavy piece of music that isn't based on the authors paranoia. My original intention with Alien and Infinity was to make MY complicated, heavy piece, but both times I lost the plot by doing drugs to alleviate the chaotic feelings in the mind that composing those sorts of things bring. Therefore, both records in a 'personal' sense (not artistic) were 'failures' to me.

Will this mean the end of chaotic music from me? well as someone said, I think I'm WIRED heavy...any direction I go on some level is really heavy, but I want to make incredibly complicated music that isn't rooted in parnoia and drug induced delusions. In fact, that makes the music less heavy to me, and in turn just harder for me to get behind and tour, as it gets relived every night for authenticity.

The reason I want to do the mellow records now, is that it is a great break I am enjoying...HOWEVER, I have written some CRAZY shit, and denying it is like saying that I don't like a part of me that I am very familiar with. When I do it, it's all that matters...but the emotional work at this point is getting both sides to 'play ball' with each other...it can happen, for sure...it just takes both sides learning some hard lessons and 'deconstructing' their motivations that make them what they are.

I love being in the zone and pounding out chaos, BUT, it is very hard to do. It's very tiring, and I take that energy into bed with me at night...so the decon. record is one I head towards with trepidation, knowing that it's going to be a commitment emotionally from me that is not comfortable. When I'm there, it's savage, but until I'm there, I need to build up (hence Ki and Addicted...a little foreplay in a sense)

The theme of deconstructing motivations after dealing with addictions leads me in many directions.

So don't get me wrong...I believe I do something that I think not many people can do, and in a way there's an artistic obligation to do so, but there ARE ways to do that doesn't lead the composer to self destruction. Partly, leading up to it, partly discipline, partly not allowing yourself to dupe yourself into accepting gratifying emotional reposnses (power, vanity etc.)

I'll figure it out, damn straight...and to be clear, the reason I don't do HEAVY 24 7 now is that I CAN'T...it will burn me out in nothing flat...LESS time than it did when I was 24, for sure...so, health, sobriety, exercise...blablabla.

I love it all, each in it's place. If you like one over the other, at least be aware that the other stuff deserves respect, for without it, your personal favorite part wouldn't exist.

So ha.
#195924 by NFF
Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:15 am
wow thanks for that Dev, i personaly await with bated breath on anything you release because i know whatever it is, be it elevater muzak or something that blows your brain out with a 300mm depleated uranium slug wile doing 90mph on a Harley full throttle. because i know that whatever it is its got 100% got your conviction on it and your being honest with yourself. i personaly cant wait for a HeavyDeavy symphony! i would put my only suit on just to see that.

well wherever your music may lead you i will surely follow it. keep doing whatever you like and happy listening for us.
#195930 by swervedriver
Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:38 am
Call the 4th record "A Sunday..." and have the final song be the same theme as "A Monday..." on Ki, sort of an intro if you will. Closing the circle, unifying all 4 albums, making these albums really as one piece of DTP, blabla...

...or don't. :D

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