Science can't yet explain everything that happens with in our universe. Theres only theories on everything.

We don't have enough evidence to form a theory on the creation of the universe, on dimentions, so on, yet. This means we leave the explanation as an unknown, come up with ideas, see if they explain the evidence, if there is enough support, and NEVER maintain a contradiction, so on. In light of new evidence we then either refine the theory, refute it, or congratulate ourselves because this is more support and we solved the puzzle with less clues than the universe had to offer. And a theory means an idea that is strongly supported and explains the factual evidence. Gravity is a theory, the ball falls is a fact. What you mean is there's only "ideas" on unknowns. Although my sentence structure this whole paragraph is shit.

So, in that case, I do not see why the paranormal cannot exist. And if science can explain how it can exist, what does it then become I wonder...

It can exist, but it can't logically be believed in baselessly. Or even on entirely circumstantial evidence. String theory shows potential possibility of some of this, so if there were more substantiated evidence, I would believe it the same way I believe in evolution and gravity. Maybe we'll find more evidence in the future and some physicist will puzzle out what laws explain this evidence.

I'm open to everything. I do not have a full belief in God, Science, or the Paranormal for that matter. But,I certainly do not limit myself from any option either.

Lacking a full belief in science shows a misunderstanding in what exactly science is, but ok. The 'idea' of the paranormal isn't necesarily unscientific. As I said, I'm an atheist now, (unless admitting the technical physical possibility of God makes me agnostic, but usually agnostic implies nothing can be said either way), but only due to lack of evidence, not due to a universal negative.

Until someone can prove that one, or all are right (or wrong) I remain open to everything.

I think to write something off because science can't prove it, or because it doesn't abide by the current laws of science, is rather narrow-minded.

Uh, to start, one could easily come up with countless ideas that are just entirely unrelated to anything that could never be disproved. There's no such thing as a universal negative. There is only a contradicting positive (the world can't be flat because it IS round), or an unsupported idea (God doesn't present a contradiction but there's no cause to believe).
So, to write something off as IMPOSSIBLE because science can't prove it would be narrow minded. To write belief in something off as irrational because it's arbitrary makes sense to me. And to write something off as impossible because it doesn't abide by the current laws of science is only rational. An idea that breaks the laws of science basically amounts to this: There's something we KNOW, and something else that is speculation, and they contradict each other. Thus, the latter breaks the laws of science. Since a contradiction can't exist...




Holy shit I just ranted you to death I am sorry.

^ Isn't it annoying to have Bruce Willis follow you around all the time?

The man isn't dead, just his career.

Haha that's okay. I find it all interesting.

I kinda phrased myself wrong. What I meant by belief in science, is that because science does not know everything/cannot yet prove everything, I don't err... Follow it? I can't put all of my being into one thing, which is yet to still learn? If that makes sense. It's kinda odd to try and explain.

But, that applies to everything I have. I don't have a universal being, which I can fully believe/follow/whatever.

Sorry if that makes even less sense. I love science, and I find it an amazing subject. (I didn't do too badly at CGSE. Would of gotten much better if it wasn't for course work. )But, I love the concepts of religion, and other such things just as interesting, so until someone can prove that they are right, I refrain judgement.

Although, I really would like to investigate the whole multiple dimension thing... That really does intrigue me.

I would absolutely love it if paranormal and supernatural things... Or even a god existed.

Unfortunately, I haven't had any experiences to account for this. I don't know how or why universe works, but I can tell that it seems really pointless as it is.

Basically, my thought on religion and spirituality and whatever is, that I'm an atheist and I believe mostly on scientific world view until I am proven wrong. Some people have asked me "Doesn't that just make you depressed when you don't believe there is any purpose in life?" Hell yes it does! I am a bit fucked up person and slightly depressed about life. I just try not to think about it.

I think your purpose in life is what you make it. Some people devote their life to God, some to science, etc. If you want nothing, then have nothing, but if you want something, then find something.

I do not think you need a belief in God to have a purpose in life, is what I'm saying.

Even if our existance may/may not have a point, no point in not having a purpose for you to fulfil, if that makes sense?

I would absolutely love it if paranormal and supernatural things... Or even a god existed.

According to Mulder and Scully - they do!

For real, the X Files does a good job of mingling science and the paranormal.
By probability, and straight up math and numbers, Carl Sagan concludes that foreign life forms have to exist in the universe somewhere. It's statistically possible. I like to believe that. But I don't believe in little green men, perhaps little green slime molds though - that still counts as a life form!

This is all beyond my comprehension -Carl and his knowledge. I like how he explains that we are all 'made of star stuff' though. If you want context to that statement, go watch all 8 discs of Cosmos!

I always thought it was interesting how aliens are often portrayed as having human anatomical features, albeit sometimes exaggerated or minimized. I guess that's just proof that humans are human centered, and anthropomorphize inanimate or foreign creatures and things (man in the moon, anyone?)

I hope I got my point across without error or mis-speaking, this is heady stuff!

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

Check that out for multi-dimensional babbling. One of my teachers showed us that years ago. I think I found it interesting. I actually can't really remember my opinion on the whole thing, and the hockey game that's currently on is holding my attention so I shan't be watching now... Oh well. Enjoy! Maybe...

Hot damn this topic went way off the initial point. I personally wouldn't think ye olde idol shows would be the greatest career move, really. And I have no opinion on most of the other tv shows on discussion. All I watch nowadays is sport, South Park and Top Gear. Great variety there.

I wish you hadn't linked that Leechmaster. It hurt my brain years ago, and will probably do it again

Sorry man. I gots to earn ma little red label, don't I! I do remember needing to watch it loads to wrap my head around it fully. I don' think its something you can 100% follow with one viewing.

I just remember thinking "Ah this is very well explained, how interesting" then getting to step 7 and being like wwruoahgaoighaeoihaiebvheabjuvaihaeivnbiaobvioioahioehaovHELPMEGOD!

Making more sense a second time round though (some years later and with a greater understanding of physics).

http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t Man, I would love for him to teach physics at my school.

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

Check that out for multi-dimensional babbling. One of my teachers showed us that years ago. I think I found it interesting. I actually can't really remember my opinion on the whole thing, and the hockey game that's currently on is holding my attention so I shan't be watching now... Oh well. Enjoy! Maybe...

Hot damn this topic went way off the initial point. I personally wouldn't think ye olde idol shows would be the greatest career move, really. And I have no opinion on most of the other tv shows on discussion. All I watch nowadays is sport, South Park and Top Gear. Great variety there.

il look at that later, i think I've come across it before, but my memory is naff.

And yeah. I don't think it could be the best of career moves, but by the same hand it could go equally as well... Who knows?

I think this video is a good argument against the notion that disbelieving something based on lack of evidence is close-minded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI
Says it better than I can.

Bear in mind that not believing in something, or saying that it almost certainly doesn't exist, is not the same thing as saying that it absolutely 100% cannot exist.
For example, if (as some christians like to) you define atheist as someone who believes that there is 0 chance that a god exists, then even Richard Dawkins isn't an atheist.

It's impossible to prove conclusively that ghosts absolutely do not exist, just as it is impossible to prove conclusively that unicorns, leprechauns and the easter bunny do not exist. However, what we can do, is evaluate the evidence and claims made by those who claim that they do exist, and see whether or not those claims hold water.

I agree with that. In fact, this guy is almost as cool as Thunderf00t.