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#191569 by stratman687
Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:21 am
So wait...
After all that fucking music with DTB/solo stuff and SYL that i deeply love
We still have yet to see the REAL Dev?

anyways; Yeah i feel the canadian hate even here from kids in VT for some reason and i don't know why. I don't even know if they're completely serious or not...it's like casual insults torwards canada are a social norm. It's not like any of these kids in my school have actually had a REAL encounter with canadians whether it be for bad or good. When I think of canada, i think of dev, molson (i dont drink tho), the national anthem, The Belle Centre, and Seagull guitars...
#191575 by robvondoom
Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:37 am
For me, I've always had a kind of connection with Canada all the way over here. I was named Robert after a Minister friend of our family from Ontario. He was kind of my sometime father figure whenever he was around.
In my later life I got into Wrestling and nearly every one of my favourites are real masters of the art as opposed to Hulking Behemoths with no real skill other than pumping up the crowd. And each one from places like Calgary, Winnipeg, Alberta etc.
I've been lucky enough to have worked with some Canadian peeps and they were honestly the most on the level, straight-up, nicest and coolest people I've ever met.

So yeah I'm a big fan of Canada. Big enough to be moving there next year for at least a year or two. Possibly permanently.
I think the final straw was seeing Nemo Bay B.C. on Boston Legal. I could definately use a place like that nearby.

But I feel what you're saying Dev. I feel the same way about all my loves and passions. I simply don't understand why for instance someone would want to endure a mainstream pop album over the true genius that's out there. I can't fathom how a civilisation that loves to heap praise on itself can be satisfied by the mundane, the generic, the mediocre and the just plain bad. I've always said that if people who didn't really love music as the art it is as opposed to "something to have in the background" then the charts would be a very different affair. It's the same with movies, books, music, television, sport and on and on.

At the end of the day though Dev it's nice to know that where as you have fewer fans, yours will be with you for life, and these little fucking walking billboard, puppet little bitches will be forgotten about within a decade. All of them have a shelf life of about 5 - 7 years and then they're gone. Bye bye, see you in 10 years at your reunion gigs in front of 2000 47 year old women. Exapmles are New Kids on the Block, Take That and Boyzone. All megastars at one point and now all middle aged gimps having their carcasses dragged back on stage so they can sell fucking Pepsi again.

You're a musicians musican Dev. You will always have the respect and love of the fans and your peers. I'd rather that then the partial attention of millions of people who don't really give a fuck about me or my music.

As for the record, I knew it was only a matter of time before you brought Quantam Mechanics into your music. Actually to be honest, I thought you already had.
It's an amazing subject, even if you know relatively little about Science it can just blow your mind apart with it's infinities. KInda like music I think you'll agree. :mrgreen:

Enjoy the rest of your trip man. And don't let the bastards get you down.
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#191578 by Synthetic_Urination
Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ

I don't think anyone will do this to you....

I'd throw hearts at you or something.


These guys fail

Also I don't see you flying off the stage like that, I see you playing even if the audience was just standing there.

I remember in Bend, you were demanding people to stand and they didn't so you just fooled around a bit.

The fart bomb thou... That was the worst

anyway!!!!

Devin Townsend is greater than and definately not equal to Nickleback
#191580 by MeOpsis
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:22 am
You have to remember: we aren't the general public, guys. Sure, people may not be stupid but I KNOW I'm not much like most other people. That's why I love Dev's music. I identify with it. I see him as probably being the artist most similar to myself who has recorded music true to himself. Most people barely listen to music anyways. Its more background noise than anything else. If you turn off a song they're listening to they won't flip out like I might. It reminds me of a friend who is some what of a beer connoisseur. Sure I like drinking occasionally but the beer he drinks tastes HORRIBLE to me yet he loves it and can tell you in a very detailed way why.
#191583 by BrunoN
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:46 am
Synthetic_Urination wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ

I don't think anyone will do this to you....

I'd throw hearts at you or something.


These guys fail


You mean, audience? Yes, they're cretins.
#191595 by Forcefed101
Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:37 am
Dev!

You're my walkin, talkin and musical epiphany!! Completely agree with these rants! I think this 4 album concept is a beautiful thing. Addicted needs to be done! I've spent my whole musical life surrounded by the people who love the Nickleback type of music. Ya know, turn the song up and then turn the mental light switch off! Now I think pop music has its place (Otherwise how could I LOVE the movie Caveman with Ringo Starr) Everyone needs to turn off the switch once in a while. TURN OFF THE GRAY MATTER TO GIVE IT A BREAK, not a stae of conciousness!!!!!

I cannot wait for these 4 albums. I have a feeling that addicted is going be awesome! I seem to remember Stagnant being your inner release of your Def leppard self or something to that affect! :)
I don't know which concept is the best, to my belief they will ALL stand up as brilliant. Heaping on the compliments??? Sorry Dev, you're just going to have to deal with it.

It was all to much for the Alien!!! One of my favorite lyrics!! I think the Addicted concept is awesome! I CAN'T WAIT!!!
#191597 by Tortiss
Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:50 am
I live in Canada can kinda relate with the whole Nickelback/Junos/Much Music thing. It actually is like club and can totally understand Dev being frustrated with it, they're a ton of Canadian bands that deserve a lot more. On a slightly related note, Protest The Hero anyone? I thought Fortress was amazing.
#191599 by auldj
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 am
When bands like Nickelback started out....(I have their debut album eek!) they had some promise...

Now they sound "thin"....no soul to it...it's just like they're trying to pump out hits with no...soul.

That's what pisses me off a lot about loads of modern bands (especially the whole "indie" thing..."Oh. we're so original and different!" yeah you and every other pointy shoe, waistcoat and cardigan, hat and scarf wearing band!!!)

There are loads of bands that are...quite frankly...utter shit now and it pisses me off....

Because....

At the same time there are so many talented bands that don't get a chance! Bands that are doing different things and they don't get a notice or a push!

And it pisses me off because that's what people want...orginality...not the same carbon copy over and over

Companies pumping out and pushing out the same old shit that has no real value or substance..

Dev nailed it on the head when he said "people aren't stupid" (paraphrase?) because we're not...don't want to be treated like an idiot and given the same thing over and over

It is an insult
#191601 by Amber
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:50 am
Hmmm. The music industry is a strange piece of work.

Yes, people do what carbon copies of things over and over, but the thing is, there has to be a form to start off the carbon copying in the first place. Does that make sense?

Something new has to happen. And to be honest, I think it needs to happen soon too. The creative industry as a whole has hit some kinda stagnant point, (in my personal opinion) and no one seems to have any direction of where to go. Everything at the moment is kinda copying itself over and over. No one has the... Balls possibly? To go out and do something new. But the people who do have the balls, its trying to get the followers.

It's almost like everyones afraid of doing creative things. I mean, compare general fashion now, to the 80s. Most people are so tame. Everyone now a days has to fit into a club of some sort. Even in 'alternative' culture. It's ridiculous. Although Im fairly sure thats how things have been since the dawn of time.

I think Dev, you should just stand out for yourself, and do whatever you need to do musically.

Who knows, maybe you'll become the new thing to set off a new creative wave. :P Damn its needed. 8) Heehee.
#191602 by Zyprexa
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:52 am
MeOpsis wrote:we aren't the general public, guys.

Please don't include me in this statement. Seriously, I don't know what warped perceptions you have about yourself but I'm a regular piece of biology with the vaguest semblance of sentience, whether or not I'm happy about it.

MeOpsis wrote:Most people barely listen to music anyways. Its more background noise than anything else. If you turn off a song they're listening to they won't flip out like I might.

This doesn't necessarily mean that they listen less astutely, it could just mean that you're a cranky prick.

The Dev wrote:No I don´t want to be part of that club, and the support I get is unbelievable.

It must be hard to face exclusion from the mainstream drivel which is accepted in ones own country. But I wouldn't put the Rufus Wainwrights or Arcade Fires of Canadian music in the same classification as you, they seem to have used Canada from the outset as a means of fame; as well as the fact that they're looking for a different target market. I think it's just that when somebody goes into the metal/ambient music classification (and when they're brilliant at it), they struggle for widespread popularity.

Perhaps the problem is that Canada's population is well over 30 million people and thus the focus is on the potential millions of people who aren't fans as opposed to those who are. On Google trends, it says that the sixth most popular search for Devin Townsend is Canadian. That's pretty high, like.
#191606 by Wosko
Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:13 pm
As for the direction of the music industry... the stuff we are seeing over and over seems to just be the mainstream MTV faggos tryin to make a buck but the underground music scene is where its at... as most true music fans know
#191610 by Synthetic_Urination
Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:31 pm
BrunoN wrote:
Synthetic_Urination wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ

I don't think anyone will do this to you....

I'd throw hearts at you or something.


These guys fail


You mean, audience? Yes, they're cretins.


They got paid, they could have at least finished the set.... Manson has gotten worse and still finished the set anyway.

Oh well, thats their choice.
#191619 by Leechmaster
Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:28 pm
BrunoN wrote:
Synthetic_Urination wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ
I don't think anyone will do this to you....
I'd throw hearts at you or something.
These guys fail


You mean, audience? Yes, they're cretins.

I say I say, I resent that remark! :P

Not half as bad as that guy who threw chairs at 50 Cent at the Reading Festival a few years back..
#191622 by Amber
Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:35 pm
Who thought it would be a good idea to put 50 Cent at Reading though?

I mean, I'm all up for cultral diversity, but even I know thats a bad idea. :P

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