I know what you mean about hyperchondriac - I worry about that too, which is why I've never gone to anyone about it. Interestingly though - They seem to take more interest if you go through Mania states rather than depressive ones - I guess you get more depressed people and maniacs? I don't know. xD But after reading about yesterday, I had about 5 of the maina syndrome things, out of 7...
But then reading it, I thought it was symptoms that a lot of people probably have had at some point, which is probably why its so hard to diagnose.

And yep, I would agree those are good albums too. Physicist seems more like the "Mixed State" you can get with Bi Polar (or, thats the kinda vibe I pickup). And, this might be too obvious, but in Material:
"Out of manic mode."

And thats interesting. Although I've been reading up on it, and a lot of people with Synesthesia have litracy, or mathmatics problems, but extreme creativity. Hmmm...

Hey Devin, I was watching your gear demonstration vids a few days ago, and I was wondering what string gauges do you usually use for your seven string guitars in open C?

Hey Devin, I was watching your gear demonstration vids a few days ago, and I was wondering what string gauges do you usually use for your seven string guitars in open C?

It's in this video, I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLb7sj8ErS0

Is it just me or are some people giving the impression that having bi-polar disorder is a desirable thing?

Is it just me or are some people giving the impression that having bi-polar disorder is a desirable thing?

I wasn't meant to give that impression - It facinates me in a strange way. But them I seem to have a strange interest in all of this kinda thing. I wasn't meant to sound like it was a good thing or over enthusiastic or anything.

Is it just me or are some people giving the impression that having bi-polar disorder is a desirable thing?

I wasn't meant to give that impression - It facinates me in a strange way. But them I seem to have a strange interest in all of this kinda thing. I wasn't meant to sound like it was a good thing or over enthusiastic or anything.

Its fine i just didnt like the way it was heading lol.
I dissagree that you can only truly understand devs work if you have a condition, if indeed that is what people are implying (i could be wrong) but the magical thing about devins music is that no matter who you are you can relate to somthing in the music which makes you "understand".
Your right it is facinating but me personally would rather let it be facinating rather then have to live with it day in and day out. Devin is the only person i know who has it but it certainly doesnt seem like a picnic!

Dont think im having a dig at you or anything its really none of my bussiness to stick my oar in your disscussion.

Law

Stephen Fry has it. Now you know two. xD

And to be fair, the seven symptoms of mania thing? I exhibit all of them all the time. Maybe I'm just mad. xD

But on that note, I agree, you don't have to have any kind of thing to enjoy or understnad Devin. He's great to listen to in any respect. =D That was probably slightly off topic but I don't caaare. =D

Is it just me or are some people giving the impression that having bi-polar disorder is a desirable thing?

I wasn't meant to give that impression - It facinates me in a strange way. But them I seem to have a strange interest in all of this kinda thing. I wasn't meant to sound like it was a good thing or over enthusiastic or anything.

Its fine i just didnt like the way it was heading lol.
I dissagree that you can only truly understand devs work if you have a condition, if indeed that is what people are implying (i could be wrong) but the magical thing about devins music is that no matter who you are you can relate to somthing in the music which makes you "understand".
Your right it is facinating but me personally would rather let it be facinating rather then have to live with it day in and day out. Devin is the only person i know who has it but it certainly doesnt seem like a picnic!

Dont think im having a dig at you or anything its really none of my bussiness to stick my oar in your disscussion.

Law

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Haha - That's cool, I didn't think you was having a dig, I just thought I should make it clear incase I confuse people I do exhibit some symptoms, but I think it leans more towards Cyclothymia. Which is like a watered down version (uhm to put it really badly anyway ). Usually genetic, but can be brought through trauma and stress as well. Interestingly enough... Although, the whole thing with Bi-Polar, is they are still not entirely sure how it kinda forms, and distinguishing it is really difficult too.
Oh, and what I meant was, you couldn't understand the true meaning of Dev's lyrics and such, unless you was inside his head. Not having the condition. I really do not type what I mean too well. If you met me in person I would be usually big gestures and silly sounds to get across what I mean. Somehow people understand that more
You definitely can dissect his lyrics, and understand them, but to your understanding, if that makes more sense?

I really am going to shush now as I am making less and less sense

I wouldn't advertise bipolar as delightful- but I personally think that sadness and anger can be just as enjoyable or important as joy and love. I'm not sure why- maybe it's just the sheer power of those emotions that's intoxicating. Either way, without them, I don't think we could appreciate positive emotions as much. So I personally enjoy my "symptoms," at least to a certain degree. I also find it harder to relate to people that don't have the capacity for intense emotions... is that weird?

what I meant was, you couldn't understand the true meaning of Dev's lyrics and such, unless you was inside his head. Not having the condition.

I don't think that's anything to do with bi-polar disorder. I'd argue that you can never truly understand the meaning behind another person's music and lyrics, since you're not them, and your experience of it is always going to be filtered through your own personality and experiences.

You can understand what the lyrics are saying, and maybe even know what it was written about, but you'll never experience it in the same way as the person that wrote it.

I got the diagnosis a week ago or so. Not sure if it is bipolar 1, 2 or 33.4 though, I think it s the 2 type with depression and hypomania. Can only speak for myself. Of the time spent in episodes (can go months or years without any episodes, just being "normal") it sucks 80% of the time, maybe more. About the creative stuff. It was there from about 14-23 for me, after that not so much. And besides it has been a lot of "starting on things without going through with it". Sometimes it is just overload, you want to create something new before even starting on the things you wanted to do 5 mins ago and so on, to many, and when the ideas stop coming at 350 km/h it seems hard to stick with any one of them after things calm down.

what I meant was, you couldn't understand the true meaning of Dev's lyrics and such, unless you was inside his head. Not having the condition.

I don't think that's anything to do with bi-polar disorder. I'd argue that you can never truly understand the meaning behind another person's music and lyrics, since you're not them, and your experience of it is always going to be filtered through your own personality and experiences.

You can understand what the lyrics are saying, and maybe even know what it was written about, but you'll never experience it in the same way as the person that wrote it.

That's what I meant I really don't write things out well sorry What I said applies to any song writer I know of. I just said Devin, as this is the Devin forums, and not [enter random musicians name here] forums

But yeah what I meant was you can dissect lyrics and understand them, but the true meaning/experience/feeling, I don't think you can get unless you was that person. because liek you said, you add your own feelings, meanings, and interpretations of those lyrics.

For example, I drew a picture to the sing "Traveller" and the image I got was a person seeing a "magical" place for the first time, and since then been a traveller, but im 90% sure that's not what the song is really about So you can interpret the same set of lyrics in many different ways, and each person thinks differently as well.
I'm not bringing in the disorder there - I litrally just meant about lyric writing and the experiences of it, you couldn't get the true feeling/emotion/meaning etc, unless you are that person. Does that make better sense? I really do apologise, I do not type well

The creative stuff I referred to eariler was meant for Syntheisia. But, it seems like it comes under bi-polar as well a lot of the time.

I got the diagnosis a week ago or so. Not sure if it is bipolar 1, 2 or 33.4 though, I think it s the 2 type with depression and hypomania. Can only speak for myself. Of the time spent in episodes (can go months or years without any episodes, just being "normal") it sucks 80% of the time, maybe more. About the creative stuff. It was there from about 14-23 for me, after that not so much. And besides it has been a lot of "starting on things without going through with it". Sometimes it is just overload, you want to create something new before even starting on the things you wanted to do 5 mins ago and so on, to many, and when the ideas stop coming at 350 km/h it seems hard to stick with any one of them after things calm down.

And dude that sucks. Are they giving out a plan for it? like medication and therapy, or just kinda sticking with it? And honestly, I kinda know how you feel about the whole head flooding with ideas thing. But, its kinda cool (well not cool that's the wrong word, but I can't think of another one) to have the burst of inspirational energy to go do something sometimes.

I wouldn't advertise bipolar as delightful- but I personally think that sadness and anger can be just as enjoyable or important as joy and love. I'm not sure why- maybe it's just the sheer power of those emotions that's intoxicating. Either way, without them, I don't think we could appreciate positive emotions as much. So I personally enjoy my "symptoms," at least to a certain degree. I also find it harder to relate to people that don't have the capacity for intense emotions... is that weird?

And yes - I agree with this as well. I tend to find them when I'm in a really good mood, I'm not as sensitive, so sometimes I think I miss out on the kinda deeper things in life. Being in a darker mood makes it a lot easier to think about the depths of the universe, without freaking you out or 'crashing' your mood.
And no, I don't think that's weird. You can't experience what they have, but by the same hand, they can't handle your 'intensity' (is that a good word?) if that makes sense. So, I'm sure they find it hard to relate too.

I think we turned this into a bit of a serious thread you know.

No medications now. I`m almost 30 and have only had 2 severe depressive episodes. It took almost 13 years from the first ended to the next begun. Those between have been only mild to moderate, and so called "atypical". I wont use any meds as long as I`m "normal". A lot of docors think people should but.. I want to see how this plays out without taking anything. Therapy every 14. day or so.

Oh I see - I hope didn't mind me asking. I'm awfully curious It's cool your not medicated for it though. I'm a total believer in not taking any, unless you're in a state where your life (or others too) could be at serious risk.

Sometimes i think my friend is bi-polar (and i don't mean that in an ignorant asshole way) and i worry about her. I dont know if she does though, so i can't be sure. I really don't think she is, but sometimes she just randomly gets upset, even sometimes suicidal (at least she talks about it) but then she'll just be fine again later. And the suicidal thing rarely happens. Other times she just gets randomly upset over literally nothing. Or she'll get over stressed with things, and other times she'll just decide that everyone hates her and she doesn't have a place to belong. These "episodes" as i've called them in the past, for lack of a better term, have been happening less and less lately but every so often they'll pop up again and she'll get very upset. I worry about her, and I used to think she may have some sort of depression, but she's gotten alot better over the 2 years i've known her. I doubt she's bipolar, but if anybody recognizes symptoms like these and thinks there may be a mental condition involved, advice is welcomed.

Edit: I wasn't aware that they replaced a.s.s.h.o.l.e. with very nice guy, but yeah.