Hahaha, it is clear now that you really don't read books.

It's just as bad as iTunes DRM and Sony DRM so you might as well be saying:

WALKMAN BEAN IS DRM IN A BOX
IPOD IS DRM IN A BOX
ZUNE IS DRM IN A BOX

But really, it's only as much DRM as you let it be. If you convert your films into MPEG you'll then be able to play it on Zune and iPod. If all your music is in MP3 then you'll be able to play it on all 3 players.

There's advantages (longer battery life, takes up less space) and disadvantages (most probably only be playable on one brand of MP3 player, not the best quality) of converting your music into the default AAC/WMA/ATRAC but no-one is forcing you to make your videos and music locked into one platform.

But really, it's only as much DRM as you let it be.

Another kind of DRM problem, but part of the same shitbag:
I have bought the expensive official cds of A Perfect Circle and Kraftwerk. However, my cd-player broke down about a year ago and i haven't been able to listen to them since on my laptop, because of DRM. This is wrong and there's nothing I can do about it, at least without breaking the law.

but no-one is forcing you to make your videos and music locked into one platform.

That is exactly what they are trying to do. And had done already, had they succeeded. Recommended reading:
Digital Music Wars: Ownership and Control of the Celestial Jukebox (Patrick Burkart). An eye-opener.
Peace out..

What has digital rectal massage (DRM) got to do with music?

But really, it's only as much DRM as you let it be.

Another kind of DRM problem, but part of the same shitbag:
I have bought the expensive official cds of A Perfect Circle and Kraftwerk. However, my cd-player broke down about a year ago and i haven't been able to listen to them since on my laptop, because of DRM. This is wrong and there's nothing I can do about it, at least without breaking the law.

I don't see what you mean, they're stuck inside your CD player or something? Plus you're blaming Windows for putting DRM when it was completely optional? Is it possible to fix the CD player and extract the CDs so you can re-rip them without DRM?

No offense or anything but from what I can tell you can't fully blame DRM; it's the broken CD player's fault too. What if you didn't even rip them onto the computer? You couldn't blame DRM then, only the CD player.

but no-one is forcing you to make your videos and music locked into one platform.

That is exactly what they are trying to do. And had done already, had they succeeded. Recommended reading:
Digital Music Wars: Ownership and Control of the Celestial Jukebox (Patrick Burkart). An eye-opener.
Peace out..

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have to check out the library for that. Also for the record I dislike DRM just as much as you, that's why I avoid it at all costs. All of my music that I own is ripped onto this computer at 256kbps MP3 so it's compatable with any MP3 player I decide to own in the future. I don't really buy iTunes music since I hate the fact they're locking me into their software and hardware and to escape that I'll need to burn it and re-rip it which would result in an worse sounding DRMless MP3. The best thing to do would be to buy the CD and choose whether you want DRM or not.

Here's an interesting speech by Cory Doctorow http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4876244745, he's done some very interesting talks about DRM which I recommend everyone should watch.

Here is the transcript for those who have 56k: http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt.

I BOUGHT AN IPOD A FEW DAYS AGO AND I LOOOVE IT

especially the "on the go" playlist thing since I always think of an album I want to listen to next but dont want to stop what I'm listening to, then forget it when the current album ends!!

I try to keep my whole music collection in mp3s of at least 160 kbps (I rip my CDs at 192).. I dont think I'll ever want to deal with ahving ac ollection in a file type that only works with one company again (sony did a good job of making sure I'll never buy anything else by them ever again because of this, and sonic stage)

I don't see what you mean, they're stuck inside your CD player or something? Plus you're blaming Windows for putting DRM when it was completely optional? Is it possible to fix the CD player and extract the CDs so you can re-rip them without DRM?

No offense or anything but from what I can tell you can't fully blame DRM; it's the broken CD player's fault too. What if you didn't even rip them onto the computer? You couldn't blame DRM then, only the CD player.

Ah, the thing is that because of the "Copy Control technology" in the cds, my computer won't even recognise the discs when I REPLACE them in. Thus, I am not able to rip them nor listen to them. I could possibly rip them with CloneCD or similar, but that should not be my responsibility as a customer. I should just be able to buy the cd, REPLACE it into any cd-player, even one of a computer, and enjoy the music, simple as that. Also, copying or ripping a cd with copy protection is illegal under the current law here. And still, when I buy a cd, I want to listen to the music in cd-quality audio, not through mp3 compression, even at a reasonable bitrate.
Sorry if I got confused with the terms of DRM and Copy Control. It's all the same scheme, though. Thanks for the video link!

I have also heard that copy controlled CD's sometimes won't play in older CD players, and that they can cause a ticking sound even in modern CD players. It's ridiculous and I think such measurements will not have people buy more CD's. What's the point in owning a CD if you can't play it properly?


Also: you have no idea how many times some blonde chick tried to send me music she downloaded on iTunes through MSN, not understanding why I can't play those songs. It's just annoying.


Personally, I own (as in: Paid for) plenty of CD's that have never seen a normal CD player. I rip them to my computer (320 kb/s MP3) and then put them away. This is because I'm always on the computer and I think playing music that way is much more convenient than CD players because you have access to the entire collection all the time, and the graphical interface has a lot more possibilities. Also, this way I can easily put them on my DRM-less MP3 player.
Why would this have to be illegal? I own the CD and paid for the music, and I'm not sharing it with anyone. What's wrong with it?

Conclusion: DRM is annoying and pointless.

I BOUGHT AN IPOD A FEW DAYS AGO AND I LOOOVE IT

especially the "on the go" playlist thing since I always think of an album I want to listen to next but dont want to stop what I'm listening to, then forget it when the current album ends!!

I try to keep my whole music collection in mp3s of at least 160 kbps (I rip my CDs at 192).. I dont think I'll ever want to deal with ahving ac ollection in a file type that only works with one company again (sony did a good job of making sure I'll never buy anything else by them ever again because of this, and sonic stage)

Same here. Now everywhere I go I wont have a craving for a song thats not on my shitty 128 MB MP3!

Than again, I got alot of thumbwork to do

All reviews should be as blunt as that, how about downloading "zoon" by fields of the nephilim in utter defiance.

Creative MP3 Players > Ipods , especially with the Video ones, better resolution

Creative MP3 Players > Ipods , especially with the Video ones, better resolution

I'll agree with that when they include true gapless playback. I have a Zen Micro and the thing is now shite compared to iPods, if only because of the grouping and lossless audio features (plus gapless playback).