i looked through, couldnt find a thread on it (but im sure there prob is somewhere), anyway - how well has synchestra sold compared to previous releases? on the website? amazon? insideout site? what about distribution to cd stores - do you get access to those figures?

have the intials pressing of the album increased compared to other DTB or SYL?

cheers!

Do you really expect Tracy to tell you how many Devy records they have already sold?

Nobody will ever tell, but you may find some figures here and there, especially if you know some people!

I will never understand what is wrong with making money. Never.
It's as if people were ashamed of selling things and making money.

What is wrong with an artist saying: I've already sold 40,000 copies of my album and made 200,000 bucks so far.

[djskrimp]

I think, to answer your question, that some think that by making money off of your art, that it is a product, and not art. So, maybe in their mind, it cheapens or lessens the art. They forget, however, that in order to get into the mindspace to create the art, you must make enough to live, because having to worry about where your next meal or where you are going to live tends to REALLY inhibit the creative forces. Besides, it IS a product. You can hold a CD in your hand, you can see the inlay card, you can taste the paper. However, it is the music that comes from the CD that makes it art. I'm curious as to whether or not Dev is making enough because I want him to be able to focus on what he does...and asking people if he can take their stinking order tends to take away from that. However, I know better than to ask Tracy that, or anyone else. All I can do is try to support when I can, (buy a DVD/CD?T-shirt/Concert ticket), and hope that my like-minded Devheads are doing the same.

Do you really expect Tracy to tell you how many Devy records they have already sold?

i dont want to know the exact number, just if its selling better through each of the sources.

[EphelDuath666]

yeah...don't see anything wrong with the actual question either since CD didn't ask for any numbers

yeah...don't see anything wrong with the actual question either since CD didn't ask for any numbers

I was just trying to explain my thoughts when I first read that post.
Nothing more. and no bad thoughts at all.

Nothing is wrong with his post!

I was just wondering why artists are ashamed of telling the sales figures and how much they make.

As if they were ashamed of the money they make from their work.
And I'm not focusing on HDR, lots of artist act the same way.

I'm proud for the artist when I read somewhere that "this record" sold over than 50,000 copies or so.

I hope nobody will get me wrong.

I think knowing record sales is quite interesting and I guess we would all be pretty pleased for DTB if somewhere word is spreading and more and more people appreciating them. I guess them appearing in the charts is an indication but then again I have no idea if the other albums appeared in charts and then again lol, all depends on what else is out when they were released.

As for the money aspect ... bands signed to labels depending on contract I remember reading the figure of an expectation of $1 per sale depending on the contract. Taking into account the costs involved in making an album in the first place the costs of which, from what I understand, are covered before royalties start being paid, doesn't amount to much split between band members for sure.

Very complex subject for sure one which spins my head and I am sure someone here would be able to add more insight than I am able to offer.

[EphelDuath666]

no prob Mr. french Dave I'm quite sure that Synchestra has done really well though and maybe better than the previous stuff. I don't know how much you can count on Amazon but it has done really well on amazon.de, amazon.co.uk and amazon.com in the week of its release and it got pretty fantastic reviews too which probably helped to convince some people to buy it.

... and sorry I didn't realise this was in the Ask Tracy section before I replied and perhaps we should give Tracy a chance to express her thoughts if she wishes before this thread gets too much longer for her to have to look all the way though.

[EphelDuath666]

yeah sorry...forgot about this one

02 - Let Tracy answer questions, no matter how enthusiastic you are ... you are not Tracy

[Tracy]

We really don't know. We receive sales figures from the various labels about 6 months to a year after the release. We know only what we distribute ourselves.

We really don't know. We receive sales figures from the various labels about 6 months to a year after the release. We know only what we distribute ourselves.

I thought you had a few bucks each time a CD was sold...
If it's so, you don't really need figures then.

I thought the labels would let you know aboot how good an album sales.

Keep on rocking as many people as you can!!!

Synchestra deserves to be popular. I'm sure it will, anyway!

[Tracy]

We really don't know. We receive sales figures from the various labels about 6 months to a year after the release. We know only what we distribute ourselves.

I thought you had a few bucks each time a CD was sold...
If it's so, you don't really need figures then.

I thought the labels would let you know aboot how good an album sales.

Keep on rocking as many people as you can!!!

Synchestra deserves to be popular. I'm sure it will, anyway!

No, it doesn't work that way. You get paid every 3 or 6 months (depending on your contract) if you have earned over what the label invested in the album (industry term: recouped).

We have been told though that the album has charted in France, Germany and Finland though. That is very cool.

[EphelDuath666]

France too? Yay!!! Good news!

We really don't know. We receive sales figures from the various labels about 6 months to a year after the release. We know only what we distribute ourselves.

I thought you had a few bucks each time a CD was sold...
If it's so, you don't really need figures then.

I thought the labels would let you know aboot how good an album sales.

Keep on rocking as many people as you can!!!

Synchestra deserves to be popular. I'm sure it will, anyway!

No, it doesn't work that way. You get paid every 3 or 6 months (depending on your contract) if you have earned over what the label invested in the album (industry term: recouped).

We have been told though that the album has charted in France, Germany and Finland though. That is very cool.

Hey, Tracy, in the film industry, studios are notorious for creative accounting such that a film that makes mega dollars, like say, Jurassic Park, will actually be show to have lost money so that people on the back end don't actually get money. Do labels do the same thing on recouping with artists? In other words, does the label find ways to charge things to Devin's albums in order to keep his profits down and the money in their accounts?