Dino Cazares- Demanufacture; awesome tone... especially considering he was using a 6-string in tunings that low at the time.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can tune a 6 stringer as low as any 7 string guitar, as long as you've got a heavy enough string guage.

That said.. Dino used a fairly light guage string for his tuning, that was part of his sound though.

Crowbar use 6 string guitars in B and Drop A-tuning, which is pretty low. 13 - 56 guage strings, i believe.

I know. But on Demanufacture, Dino was in F# Standard, one step up from being a full octave down from standard, and was using that same string gauge, IIRC. Which is insane.

Also; Type O Negative's Kenny Hickey uses 11-56s, I think, in B-Standard. I could name a half-dozen other bands playing in low tunings on six-strings; but I can't think of any others that play in F# on six-strings.

And two to add to my list;
Daniel Mongrain and Martin Carbonneau, of Martyr. Saw them live last night, and their tone - both on the most recent album (Feeding the Abscess) and live - is incredible.

And, because I want to reiterate; anything Denis "Piggy" D'Amour ever did has amazing tone and playing.

[djskrimp]

And, because I want to reiterate; anything Denis "Piggy" D'Amour ever did has amazing tone and playing.

QFMFT! <teardrop>

I know. But on Demanufacture, Dino was in F# Standard, one step up from being a full octave down from standard, and was using that same string gauge, IIRC. Which is insane.

No, no, no. Dino used B (B E A D F# B) and C# (C# F# B E G# C#) tunings on Demanufacture. He now (from early 2007 on) has 8-string guitars that are tuned to F#, which he uses in new Asesino stuff and in his Divine Heresy project.

I know. But on Demanufacture, Dino was in F# Standard, one step up from being a full octave down from standard, and was using that same string gauge, IIRC. Which is insane.

No, no, no. Dino used B (B E A D F# B) and C# (C# F# B E G# C#) tunings on Demanufacture. He now (from early 2007 on) has 8-string guitars that are tuned to F#, which he uses in new Asesino stuff and in his Divine Heresy project.

Eh? Really? Huh... all the tabs I've seen for that stuff have been in F#, so I've never gotten around to learning it. Weird.

And technically, F# on an 8-string is standard tuning.

Dino Cazares- Demanufacture; awesome tone... especially considering he was using a 6-string in tunings that low at the time.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can tune a 6 stringer as low as any 7 string guitar, as long as you've got a heavy enough string guage.

That said.. Dino used a fairly light guage string for his tuning, that was part of his sound though.

Crowbar use 6 string guitars in B and Drop A-tuning, which is pretty low. 13 - 56 guage strings, i believe.

I know. But on Demanufacture, Dino was in F# Standard, one step up from being a full octave down from standard, and was using that same string gauge, IIRC. Which is insane.

Also; Type O Negative's Kenny Hickey uses 11-56s, I think, in B-Standard. I could name a half-dozen other bands playing in low tunings on six-strings; but I can't think of any others that play in F# on six-strings.

And two to add to my list;
Daniel Mongrain and Martin Carbonneau, of Martyr. Saw them live last night, and their tone - both on the most recent album (Feeding the Abscess) and live - is incredible.

And, because I want to reiterate; anything Denis "Piggy" D'Amour ever did has amazing tone and playing.

As far as i know Dino was tuned to B on Demanufacture. But it really doesn't matter, as long as you've got a heavy enough string guage you can tune a 6 string as low any 7 or 8 string guitar, although that does limit your high range.

The real point of 7 or 8 string guitars is to be able to get the low tuned notes as well as have the high octave range for leads.

Obviously, Korn were too stupid (and many other people) to realized that you can tune a 6 stringer to A (or whatever they tune too). They're the ones that started the whole 7 string craze too.

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: They're the ones that started the whole 7 string craze too.

I thought it was Stevie Vai?

: They're the ones that started the whole 7 string craze too.

I thought it was Stevie Vai?

You thought correctly.

Far as I've been able to gather, Vai came out before Korn... by quite a ways. And his Universe sig. model (the 7-string one) was a few years ahead of Korn as well. Some people were using them, but not many - Korn just took it and made it huge.

Favorite Guitar Tones:

Steve Vai - For The Love Of God

Scott Ian - March of the SOD (S.O.D.)

Joe Satriani - Back to Shalla-Bal

John Petrucci - Erotomania (Dream Theater)

Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover

[djskrimp]

Favorite Guitar Tones:

Steve Vai - For The Love Of God

Scott Ian - March of the SOD (S.O.D.)

Joe Satriani - Back to Shalla-Bal

John Petrucci - Erotomania (Dream Theater)

Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover

Big fan of fluid, violin-like tone, huh?

: They're the ones that started the whole 7 string craze too.

I thought it was Stevie Vai?

You thought correctly.

Far as I've been able to gather, Vai came out before Korn... by quite a ways. And his Universe sig. model (the 7-string one) was a few years ahead of Korn as well. Some people were using them, but not many - Korn just took it and made it huge.

That's what i meant. Korn popularized the 7 string guitar. They're pretty much the whole reason those guitars caught on with other musicicans. Not Vai, even though it was his idea/creation.

: They're the ones that started the whole 7 string craze too.

I thought it was Stevie Vai?

You thought correctly.

Far as I've been able to gather, Vai came out before Korn... by quite a ways. And his Universe sig. model (the 7-string one) was a few years ahead of Korn as well. Some people were using them, but not many - Korn just took it and made it huge.

That's what i meant. Korn popularized the 7 string guitar. They're pretty much the whole reason those guitars caught on with other musicicans. Not Vai, even though it was his idea/creation.

Well, it wasn't even his idea. The electric seven-string guitar was mainly his influence, but seven string guitars go back to the old "Russian guitars," which were 7-string acoustics; look it up on wikipedia if you're interested.

Hah, I was just looking that up earlier today. "Vai couldn't have been the first" I thought, and soon enough I was reading about Russian guitars on Wikipedia.

Hah, I was just looking that up earlier today. "Vai couldn't have been the first" I thought, and soon enough I was reading about Russian guitars on Wikipedia.

Exact same thought process that brought me to them, actually.

hello, first post here!

wow, what a cool thread you guys got going. i'm going to chime in on some of my favorite guitar players/tones

1. Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel)
Not only is this my favorite guitar player, he also has my favorite tone. His style/technique is absolutely mind-blowing. When he plays, not only do you hear it, but you feel it. Sometimes its like a machine gun, sometimes its like sludge. Listen to Prayer of Hatred from Formulas Fatal to the Flesh (not my favorite Morbid Angel album...). The guitar work will make your brain melt. The last solo is the most evil solo I've ever heard. It gives me goosebumps. Another one to check out is Summoning Redemption on Gateways to Annihilation. That song in and of itself is straight from the depths of hell. I have no idea how he makes his guitar wail the way he does. The guys got hands made of stone I think.

2. Adam Jones (Tool)
Another favorite of mine. Very unique sound. Drop-D tuning on all their songs and somehow he manages to make it interesting. Great use of delay/chorus/wah. Another guitarist who makes you feel it. You can tell he isn't formally trained. I actually prefer self-taught guitarists. They always seem to have that individual sound that no one else has. They don't seem to rely as much on what they should be playing. It seems like there is just more of the persons soul in the playing/sound.

3. Kirk Hammet (we all know what band he plays in)
His technique is second to none. When this guy hits notes, he means it. I have yet to hear a guitar player shred like Hammet. No slop. Absolutely perfect. And lots of emotion. Good use of effects as well. I get jealous when I hear him play.

4. Dave Mustaine (we also know who he plays for)
Raw. Plain and simple. Another guy with hands of steel. His style is just plain mean. Always sounds like its borderline out-of-control. Awesome guitar player. And I have no idea how the hell he plays what he does and sings at the same time. Must have massive right brain/left brain coordination.

5. Kerry King/Jeff Hanneman (Slayer)
Reign in Blood. Need I say more?

Shit, I forgot one. And this one is very important:

James Hetfield
The rhythm master. Nobody plays rhythm guitar better than Hetfield. His sound and technique are unstoppable. Right hand of made of steel. Best rhythm guitar player of all time.

Anyway, those are my favorites.

What band had Kirk played in.... I just can't think of it right now. It wasn't that Metal licking one was it? Ah whatever. Anyway, I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I can always get the distortion tone I want, but finding a good clean tone is getting to me. I want something slightly overdriven but very clean, and fluid sounding.