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Now for some nerdy discussion.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:28 am
by Quinnzor
My friend and I are debating over how life would be impacted if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions. That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:39 am
by shiram
Uh thats a bit hard to speculate on...
Maybe if Stephen Hawking were a fan of Devy we could get this thing going?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:42 am
by Quinnzor
shiram wrote:Uh thats a bit hard to speculate on...
Maybe if Stephen Hawking were a fan of Devy we could get this thing going?

I'll get on this.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:48 pm
by Lauri
You mean that we could see in the future or in the past exactly like we can look to the left or to the right?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:11 pm
by ppinkham
I'm pretty sure we'd have the ability to taste rectangles.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:21 pm
by soundsofentropy
Quinnzor wrote:...if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions.


Wut. Seems you're curling up space into a point.

Quinnzor wrote:That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?


I don't know about you, but I already perceive 4 dimensions: 3 spatial, 1 time. Are you posing a question about the existence of time, or about the perception of further spatial dimensions?

Anyway, you and your friend may be interested in M-theory (or more particularly, the holographic principle). More controversially (and definitely less "rigorous"), see Heim theory. Or just some advanced math stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:47 pm
by BrunoN
This is nonsense. Now excuse me, I have to add some sugar tesseracts to my tea.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:32 pm
by Billy Rhomboid
BrunoN wrote:This is nonsense. Now excuse me, I have to add some sugar tesseracts to my tea.


I agree, so I went to feed the cat. But as I approached his box, I could not be sure if he was in there or not.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:37 am
by mEh!
We are blocked in the 3rd dimension right? we can get to see parts of the 4th dimension but we will never be able to participate in it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:01 am
by Quinnzor
Lauri wrote:You mean that we could see in the future or in the past exactly like we can look to the left or to the right?

Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:01 am
by Quinnzor
soundsofentropy wrote:
Quinnzor wrote:...if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions.


Wut. Seems you're curling up space into a point.

Quinnzor wrote:That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?


I don't know about you, but I already perceive 4 dimensions: 3 spatial, 1 time. Are you posing a question about the existence of time, or about the perception of further spatial dimensions?

Anyway, you and your friend may be interested in M-theory (or more particularly, the holographic principle). More controversially (and definitely less "rigorous"), see Heim theory. Or just some advanced math stuff.

I'll check it out.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:45 am
by swervedriver
Talk not of science! Heathens!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:12 am
by grrrv
Quinnzor wrote:Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.

Yes they would. If you print two copies of a photo, and look at them, they look the same. The photos are identical 2D objects in a 3D world. Your scenario is the same thing, just one dimension higher.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:51 am
by Quinnzor
grrrv wrote:
Quinnzor wrote:Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.

Yes they would. If you print two copies of a photo, and look at them, they look the same. The photos are identical 2D objects in a 3D world. Your scenario is the same thing, just one dimension higher.

True.. I could have worded it better.
I was talking more about 4-D Objects.
Once again, language fails me.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:18 am
by Lauri
So is your question about what life would be like if we lived in a 4-dimensional space? Or what life would be like if we could perceive time like we perceive three other dimensions of space? Or something else?