I'm sorry, but I need to vent, and I'm sure many do, about the new Morbid Angel album. I figure, let's collect it in one neat thread. A search brought up many scattered results. ANYWAY

Wow.... When I first heard it I was literally asking "Is this real? Are they really doing this? Is this a thing?" I'm now at a bit of a loss for words as to how dumbfounded I am by what they put out. I'd like your thoughts, opinions, expressions etc. on not just this, but other major (7 year wait!) musical disappointments.

Every artist has to make the decision at some point whether or not they want to stay true to their fans, or be true to themselves. It would be a hell of a lot easier to accept if they'd just change the name of the band, though. It makes me appreciate Devin discontinuing SYL all that much more. Can you imagine if Devin recorded the dtp as Strapping Young Lad?

Keeping the name when you change your sound as much as MA has is practically false advertising. It's using a well established name to sell a completely different product. It confuses the fans, and pisses them off. Van Halen should have become Van Hagar. Metallica should have become The James & Lars Experience. Morbid Angel should have called themselves Gloomy Cherub.

[swervedriver]

I am not familiar with Morbid Angel at all, except maybe the name. What's all the commotion about?

[djskrimp]

I am not familiar with Morbid Angel at all, except maybe the name. What's all the commotion about?

Death Metal band pulls a "Cold Lake".

The commotion is that one of the best and most seminal death metal bands of all time spent the guts of 5 years making some industrial/techno metal album. And not even good industrial, but really, really bad industrial with God-awful lyrics. Here's a funny taster of a song called 'Destructos Vs. The Earth' with a Star Wars dance troupe . You may think the music in some remix of a potentially better song, but no this is on the album - all 7+ minutes of it. And don't get me started on 'Too Extreme!' or 'Radikult'!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLZVrKECcs

The worst part for most fans is that the band are spreading this idea that only open-minded people will like it and only the 'REAL' fans are this. They're getting some serious abuse over on FB the last week.

I don't know if you know this but their drummer, Pete Sandoval missed out on the recording due to back surgery. He wrote this in Spanish(?) yesterday on his official facebook page in response to a fan asking his opinion. The translation and authenticity has been verified. It's a pretty damning inditement for a band member to say on the day of an album release!

"Everyone knows quite well that I, 'Pete Sandoval', didn't play that disgusting music! it doesn't even sound like Morbid. And you know the truth already: this new album they released is the worst of the worst!!!! It's SHIT I rate it 0.5 out of 10!!!! WHAT A MESS!!!!! ;(

In all fairness, Pete Sandoval has been a pretentious twat for years. I personally have mixed views about the new album. Some tracks on it are worth listening to such as Nevermore etc but others are admittedly shit. I think expectation has been raised far to highly over it, but tbh, you gonna have to deal with it. If you dont like it, go and bum their back catalogue like we have been since Vincent left

In all fairness, Pete Sandoval has been a pretentious twat for years. I personally have mixed views about the new album. Some tracks on it are worth listening to such as Nevermore etc but others are admittedly shit. I think expectation has been raised far to highly over it, but tbh, you gonna have to deal with it. If you dont like it, go and bum their back catalogue like we have been since Vincent left

Formulas is one of their best albums!

"The worst part for most fans is that the band are spreading this idea that only open-minded people will like it and only the 'REAL' fans are this. They're getting some serious abuse over on FB the last week. "

Yeah, that is the worst point. I commented on that on a review so I can just paste it here as well...

Some advocates talk about being “Open minded?”

I listen to bands in all genres of metal. Immolation is my favorite death metal band, and I listen to Within Temptation for christ sake! That is quite a span compared to most other metal fans. I find bands that I love in almost every genre outside metal as well. Including industrial and electronic music of all kinds. And many other openminded metal fans, prob. most will hate this record.

There is without any doubt a lot of narrow-minded losers among metal fans. I even think there are more of those than not…

…but this has nothing too do with being narrow. This albums experimental tracks is just terrible, plain and simple. If anyone wants industrial there are tons of bands out there that does a great job. Morbid Angel does not!

And for the death metal tracks on the album. They are not terrible, they are ok, but not more than ok. They sound like a pale echo from Domination.

I have never seen such a band-fail in my life. Bands change (and that is a good thing most of the time). When they do so they lose some fans and get new fans. Morbid Angel will lose a lot of fans and get few new. People who are into whatever it is Morbid Angel tries to do here will find tons of other bands that pulls this off. Morbid Angels attempt is _pathetic_

Now, I will give the death metal songs on the album one more try… and delete the album from my fucking iTunes library. There are tons of shit in it, really bad stuff too, that I should clean out a day I have time for it, but this one goes very soon…(did so within an hour))

And that is the case. The worst about this is not the change of style. I could tolerate and understand it if they wanted do do something a bit different. They should do so. Talking the music they are known for to a new level. I don`t want a new Blessed are the sick, or Domination 2. What I expect the most from Morbid Angel is superior quality! This is just a joke, or should have been.

Vincent is saying KILL A COP..KILL A COP at the start of a track!!!

Celtic Frost had Cold Lake, Metallica had St. Anger, you know the rest.
Of course, it didn't take long for either of those bands to come to their senses and realize their "experiments" were quite the mistake, and they followed up with releases (arguably) more true to their legacy; hopefully it will be the same with Morbid Angel.
On a side note, I am seriously hoping the new Anthrax album isn't going to be a bloody waste of time, considering all the bullshit going into making and recording it, much less releasing it.

[Octillus]

Wow. Just wow, and I'm not particularly attached to Morbid Angel... at all.

Celtic Frost had Cold Lake, Metallica had St. Anger, you know the rest.
Of course, it didn't take long for either of those bands to come to their senses and realize their "experiments" were quite the mistake, and they followed up with releases (arguably) more true to their legacy;

Err, well, Metallica had already foisted the miserable vomballs that were Load and reload on us before they imploded completely on St Anger. That's a full 7 or 8 years of releasing utter toss before they woke up and smelled the coffee. Roughly the same timespan as between Kill Em All and The Black Album.

If you are David Bowie or Prince or, well, Dev, to name but three and have built a reputation and following based on pursuing different artistic directions with each album then fine, release an album of Batavian noseflute polkas or that D&B collaboration with Guy Called Gerald if you must. Hell do Tin Machine if you really have to. Sure it's shit, but your fans know you're an eclectic kinda guy and can just stay away in droves if they choose. But if you are, say, AC/DC, and you have a sudden yen to be Belle and Sebastian, don't use the brand-name to sell it to your loyal public.

"you are present at the birth of Spinal Tap Mark 2. This one's called Jazz Odyssey"

[Octillus]

Man, I was so stoked to see that puppet show too.

Celtic Frost had Cold Lake, Metallica had St. Anger, you know the rest.
Of course, it didn't take long for either of those bands to come to their senses and realize their "experiments" were quite the mistake, and they followed up with releases (arguably) more true to their legacy;

Err, well, Metallica had already foisted the miserable vomballs that were Load and reload on us before they imploded completely on St Anger. That's a full 7 or 8 years of releasing utter toss before they woke up and smelled the coffee. Roughly the same timespan as between Kill Em All and The Black Album.

If you are David Bowie or Prince or, well, Dev, to name but three and have built a reputation and following based on pursuing different artistic directions with each album then fine, release an album of Batavian noseflute polkas or that D&B collaboration with Guy Called Gerald if you must. Hell do Tin Machine if you really have to. Sure it's shit, but your fans know you're an eclectic kinda guy and can just stay away in droves if they choose. But if you are, say, AC/DC, and you have a sudden yen to be Belle and Sebastian, don't use the brand-name to sell it to your loyal public.

"you are present at the birth of Spinal Tap Mark 2. This one's called Jazz Odyssey"

Ha.

Re: Load & Reload,
I didn't mind Load, despite thinking "what the hell" the first time I heard it, and I generally shun the latter half of the album. Reload I was more disappointed with, finding very few things to like and hoping the follow up would make up for the lack of good music these had to offer. St. Anger made both these albums sound canonical by comparison, although Dirty Window worked live (thanks to Kirk's solo, which should have been on the album, but let's not go there).

I agree though, if you make a career from diversity, that's fine. But if you do generally the same sort of music and suddenly do a drastic change after so long an establishment, you're going to invite more trouble than praise, especially if it's done badly.

Haha, oh wow, Youtube refuses to fully load that video for me
It (after 12 tries) just won't load it past 0:55.

But like here was said by Billy The Great:

But if you are, say, AC/DC, and you have a sudden yen to be Belle and Sebastian, don't use the brand-name to sell it to your loyal public.

I agree.
That's just not something I expected to hear, and now it makes me frustrated.
Every goofy picture I've seen in Funny Pics thread about this make sense now!
Hooray for that, but not for anything else.
Meh.

Haha, oh wow, Youtube refuses to fully load that video for me
It (after 12 tries) just won't load it past 0:55.

Just tried it Sarai, it's definitely working. Doesn't seem to be another version uploaded anywhere.