Thats my biggest love for PC's, their upgradeability!(yes i made that word up)

I love that you can just go purchase new parts and make everything so much better!

Thats my biggest love for PC's, their upgradeability!(yes i made that word up)

I love that you can just go purchase new parts and make everything so much better!

You can do that with macs too though.

I really don't understand why PC guys are so defensive about their systems.

It all comes down to this:

OPERATING SYSTEM.

The best computer in the world sucks with a shitty operating system.

The shittiest computer built will run well if it has a decent OS.

I happen to need both. I have a MacPro. It's like a $5k rig, and it is fucking phenomenal. You can't deny it. Don't waste your finger muscles.

I think a few important things over having good gear are the performance quality, and using whatever you are most comfortable with. First off you need to have a good solid performance to work with, or it'll be hard to make sound great. And I've tried recording using techniques I'm not used to/haven't practiced, and everything comes out sounding like dog crap. Or I just flat out can't get things to work. But I've been using the same programs/hardware for around 3 years now, and I've been able to get a much better sound over when I first started. I'm not a very technical person when it comes to recording, I just spent way too much time tweaking things to sound right. Of course I've dropped a few chunks of change to get better sounds (drums for example), but a lot of it is just finding your way around things to make them sound how you like them.

Here's my latest that I've been whoring out way too much- http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=844438&songID=7384929

All that was done with a Line 6 Pod and Acoustica Beatcraft/Mixcraft on my PC. I'm still learning and practicing some things, but the differences from when I first began to now are pretty drastic. It's all just being able to know how your gear works and spending the time workin' with it.

Of course...a friend of mine has a PC with thousands and thousands of dollars worth of plug-ins he got for free.
Something you can't do with a Mac.

aha! but you are incorrect!I never buy programs before I can test out the full thing. for free. from sources unkown. or those of which i won't discuss here...


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Thats my biggest love for PC's, their upgradeability!(yes i made that word up)

I love that you can just go purchase new parts and make everything so much better!

You can do that with macs too though.

I really don't understand why PC guys are so defensive about their systems.

It all comes down to this:

OPERATING SYSTEM.

The best computer in the world sucks with a shitty operating system.

The shittiest computer built will run well if it has a decent OS.

I happen to need both. I have a MacPro. It's like a $5k rig, and it is fucking phenomenal. You can't deny it. Don't waste your finger muscles.

Yep, main difference is operating system. Macs have their own breed of BSD Unix which has less worthless shit available to download and install I think. Most problems people have with windoze exist between chair and a keyboard, in this case, people installing tons of above mentioned shit that melts their systems. Windows XP actually works rather well if decently maintained - it's kinda shit they're dropping it in favor of controversial Vista.

Otherwise, on hardware level Macs are basically PCs in funky cases. I love my cheap, custom built dual core PC, by the way. If you have bit of that "computer savvines" (=ability to use google and putting things in slots in right shapes) you can tailor yourself nice, little, cheap computer.

I also love the way how thread about production turned into old fashioned mac-pc argument

Hey Dev,

I think i speak fro all here to say thanks for taking the time to reply thats truely nice of you!..

Its mad just thinking about what you have created in such a small enviroment.. it gives hope to people with little or no money and a tiny studio!.. although i would love to have a huuuge studio!..

Can i ask you, do you do alot of side chaining? i think thats how you acheive your sub bass effects.. but what about using it so seperate vocals from the guitars.. or give room to the kick drum over the bass guitar?

and reveb? do you have lots of reverbs all over your mix? or do you have a copule of nice global ones that you just buss too?

Cheers again Dev...

I have a big, stupid protools rig and just got pt8, thinking it would be the 'end all..'

You know, the more I use it, the more I like Logic. And it's 450 bucks.

Play it quietly in the background, anything that distracts you from what youre doing, make a note of and change.

I did Ziltoid on an imac with basically one preamp and a pod, and it sounds decent...

With Ki, I built a big fuck-off studio and spent a butt load of money I didn't have thinking that it would solve the problems...

I ended up doing 40% of the mix on my imac with a tcKonnekt 24.

Don't believe the hype! Mastering? I've got a buddy who does it really well, quick, and reasonable...(Troy at Spectre) just make it a bit louder, and take whats already there and make it better...(not different)

Compression and eq are a trap (new discovery for me...) mic placement and levels are the way to go.

Hope that helps.

dev

Ziltoid was done with a POD? I was talking to this guy on another forum when he mentioned that. I thought he was taking the piss.

You guys are right about PC, take away the internet and a PC runs pretty well. I dont have any issues with my main PC - never connect it to the net.

I used to have heaps of trouble with pro tools and my pc, A few years back, pro tools 6.1 couldnt run on xp if it had service pack 2 on it :/ ... always gay little hinderences with them, still, i love them, easier to get my hands on vstis and rtas shtuff.


...Cant wait to hear this record of bemusement.........

macs ftw

i used to make music on my pc but since i have changed over to a mac i have noticed a world of difference

even garageband which it comes with is pretty good infact amazing for a free program

I have a custom built desktop PC, and recently purchased me a new Acer laptop with a lovely spangly HD-everythin' spec that I discovered yesterday will run MSN, Firefox, Arcade Deluxe (for the watching of bloorays), Monkey Jam and about 6 heavy duty Adobe programmes all at the same time without lag. Which did impress me much. But as far as I'm concerned, buy whatever you're comfertable with, it's your computer, not anyone else's. I don't dislike Macs, I dislike people telling me to throw my PC away and buy a Mac. I've been using PCs since Windows 3.1, I'm too used to the way they work. But the Macs at uni confuse me! Leave me be with my Microsoft stuff!

No no...

I fucking hate pcs's.

Different strokes though, right?

PC for Gaming, Mac for music making. =D That's how I roooll.

I use my Mac for gaming too. I have Windows on a own disk so I can run it when I have to.

I have used Cakewalk on PC the late 90z. Cubase and mac for some years. Used Logic for 2.5 years now. Like it a lot! Even without any other plugins it is great. It comes loaded with tons of effects and instruments.

PCs are for people who truly understand computing, and are better in alot of ways for those folks...

Me, I just want to get shit done, and I'm very bad at actual computing.

I want my warning message to sing to me and say 'your firewire cable is unplugged' and not DAE 1246-12kjhgsd assertion in qually phooo (or whatever)

I guess I'm not very computer savvy.

Macs are guitar player friendly...(ie...dumb) ...ie...me.

I wasted MONTHS trying to record audio on a custom built super pc...and I sounded like a scientologist while I was using it...trying to convince my mac buddies that they were deluded.

Then I got a mac, and made 8 records...

different strokes.

Really? How strange. I use PC and whenever I use a Mac I get an immense amount of rage because I can't figure out what the bloody hell it's doing.
I managed to crash 4 of them in an hour...

I do like how space saving they are though? And they look pretty?

Amber, you and I are like...computer twins. I'd like Macs if I didn't break them the moment I sat infront of them. I think they smell Windows on my fingers...

ive never used a Mac, but they gotta have a better operating system than Windows Vista

It's all about Windows 7...