Woah! Good lord, it's a cheeseburger!!!
#256427 by deanmachine
Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:45 am
These guests are fantastic already! I know that Chuck Billy guest sang for Dev at one show last year. Hopefully he will make some sort of appearance on Deconstruction too!
#256428 by Negoba
Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:56 am
GuyOne wrote:The nods to past albums and "trademark" parts Devin always does is awesome. The only beef with it is that a lot of the tracks on Addicted have the same rhythms. I noticed it about 2-3 weeks after getting the album and as much as I love the album as a whole I still can't shake that feeling that all the riffs that sound alike are possibly just recycled.......?


One of the best things about the album Ki was that it gave us some new angles on Dev's music. But every artist has a set bag of tricks. And we as fans usually will tolerate only a certain amount of deviation anyway. It's especially hard when you're as prolific as Devy has been.

Myself, I am very happy with the way Devin has still kept giving me the kind of layered, intelligent, goofy metal I've always loved with some new angle virtually every time. "Accelerated Evolution" has some of the fewest truly new ideas on it of all DT albums, but there are some friggin killer songs on there.
#256429 by GuyOne
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:00 am
I was thinking that for Masturbator the guest would be Ziltoid or Chuck as the Planet Smasher. But since Devy already said that Ziltoid is appearing on Decon then my money is on Ziltoid.... or has Devy taken that back and decided Ziltoid is not on the album? If so then all bets are OFF!!!!! Nobody steals my money... at least that easily!!!!!
#256430 by GuyOne
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:05 am
Negoba wrote:
GuyOne wrote:The nods to past albums and "trademark" parts Devin always does is awesome. The only beef with it is that a lot of the tracks on Addicted have the same rhythms. I noticed it about 2-3 weeks after getting the album and as much as I love the album as a whole I still can't shake that feeling that all the riffs that sound alike are possibly just recycled.......?


One of the best things about the album Ki was that it gave us some new angles on Dev's music. But every artist has a set bag of tricks. And we as fans usually will tolerate only a certain amount of deviation anyway. It's especially hard when you're as prolific as Devy has been.

Myself, I am very happy with the way Devin has still kept giving me the kind of layered, intelligent, goofy metal I've always loved with some new angle virtually every time. "Accelerated Evolution" has some of the fewest truly new ideas on it of all DT albums, but there are some friggin killer songs on there.


I thought the links between New Black and Synchestra were a great surprise and it is wonderful to hear artists sort of link their albums together like that. In my eyes Synchestra was his most exploratory album while agreeing that AE was lacking. But that doesn't prevent both albums from rocking ass. They are both at the top of my list from Devin's solo career (DT, DTB & DTP). But like mentioned before It seems as though now at least 3/4 albums all share some of the same elements which are also found in Wrong Side and I am sure else where. Yeah, it is very easy to call sweeping a linking element just because sweeping is well sweeping and it does tend to sound similar. But with other links through Devin's disco and the way his brain works in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't be surprised if it was all linked together and in 20 years when Devy is all done with music he'll say, "hah! All my music was actually a huge story and here is how it is all linked! Blah blah blah...." only we are putting the pieces together as he goes along.
#256431 by Jaglavak
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:13 am
The Dev wrote:Yo guys!

Here's the current list of who does what: (more to be announced when it's ready)

Stand: Mike Akerfeldt
Juular: Ihsahn
Planet Of The Apes: Tommy Rogers
Sumeria: Joe DuPlantier
The Mighty Masturbator: TBA
Deconstruction: Oderus and Fredrik Thordenal
Pandemic: Floor Jansen
Poltergeist: TBA


...yaw!


Looks awesome! Thoroughly looking forward to hearing everyone's contributions :D

...one question though: what happened to Praise the Lowered? No guests contributing to it, or was it dropped from the album?

GuyOne wrote:I was thinking that for Masturbator the guest would be Ziltoid or Chuck as the Planet Smasher. But since Devy already said that Ziltoid is appearing on Decon then my money is on Ziltoid.... or has Devy taken that back and decided Ziltoid is not on the album? If so then all bets are OFF!!!!! Nobody steals my money... at least that easily!!!!!


Don't think Ziltoid is appearing; according to an interview Devin did in December, he said Ziltoid 'wrote' one song - Brownman - and it was cut pretty early on in the process. Didn't fit the flow of the album musically or conceptually, supposedly.
#256432 by Lolliklauer
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:15 am
Negoba wrote:
GuyOne wrote:The nods to past albums and "trademark" parts Devin always does is awesome. The only beef with it is that a lot of the tracks on Addicted have the same rhythms. I noticed it about 2-3 weeks after getting the album and as much as I love the album as a whole I still can't shake that feeling that all the riffs that sound alike are possibly just recycled.......?


One of the best things about the album Ki was that it gave us some new angles on Dev's music. But every artist has a set bag of tricks. And we as fans usually will tolerate only a certain amount of deviation anyway. It's especially hard when you're as prolific as Devy has been.

Myself, I am very happy with the way Devin has still kept giving me the kind of layered, intelligent, goofy metal I've always loved with some new angle virtually every time. "Accelerated Evolution" has some of the fewest truly new ideas on it of all DT albums, but there are some friggin killer songs on there.


I totally agree. I'm very happy, too. I remember when AE came out and i was a bit disappointed, because i had just discovered Dev before and was blown away from the diversity of OM, Terria and Infinity. AE seemed like a step back to me at first (same, known guitarsound, less overwhelming surprises). But with some distance i really fell in love with some of it's songs.
#256433 by ppinkham
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:29 am
The Dev wrote:Yo guys!

Here's the current list of who does what: (more to be announced when it's ready)

Stand: Mike Akerfeldt
Juular: Ihsahn
Planet Of The Apes: Tommy Rogers
Sumeria: Joe DuPlantier
The Mighty Masturbator: TBA
Deconstruction: Oderus and Fredrik Thordenal
Pandemic: Floor Jansen
Poltergeist: TBA


...yaw!


Oderus! That is awesome! :guitar:
#256435 by catharsis
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:34 am
after listening to that intro to the vid again, i'm pretty sure it directly references numbered! it's the EXACT same melody that Anneke sings with the exact same backup part. kind of how color your world references wrong side, which i love when he does that.

yes, there are a few riffs that sound similar throughout his work (OM and regulator for example) but i dont think thats what this is.

@guyone: i think you meant alien & synchestra?
#256437 by Lolliklauer
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:42 am
catharsis wrote:after listening to that intro to the vid again, i'm pretty sure it directly references numbered! it's the EXACT same melody that Anneke sings with the exact same backup part.


You are right and i'm taking back my first point (that it is just another repetition of that old thing again).
#256438 by catharsis
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:45 am
:) althought i do agree that between ziltoid, ki & addicted, similar riffs have been used a bunch.
#256442 by Lolliklauer
Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:00 pm
I wonder if the part from 6:22 - 6:46 is Thordendal with his 8-String? Devin references Meshuggah in the lyrics and sonically it could be him, i think.
#256463 by azure
Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:11 pm
GuyOne wrote:as much as I love the album as a whole I still can't shake that feeling that all the riffs that sound alike are possibly just recycled.......?


When I was about 5 years old my family had to live with my grandparent's on their farm in the country for a few years. We then moved a whole lot after that (I went to 13 different schools by the time I graduated). That farm, though I was in and out of there through the years, became 'home' to me. It hardly ever changed. There was always fun to be had, good food, and good memories. As soon as I heard the sound of gravel hitting the wheel wells as we turned on their dirt road when we visited I'd get so excited to soon be in a familiar place.

I think we want constants in our life. We also want things we can relate to.

This is something I really appreciated about Devin's writing. Hearing a continuity of style from album to album is something I enjoy. He does it all so, well, right that even when similar or repetitive it's still exactly what I want to hear. It is still exactly Devin's style and creativity. I find it comforting, like going back 'home' where you want to be and things are as you want them. When similar riffs kick in I'm like "yep, that's it right there" as hits the right spot.

To put it selfishly, he does what I only wish I could do. That's how I got hooked on him because he could actually play what I only imagined in my head. Pretty much all that I write ends up being evolving themes, patterns and rhythms (mostly due to my lack of talent and creativity, though).
#256466 by IX10N
Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:33 pm
Has anyone been able to pick exactly what that Meshuggah vocal line is?
What I can hear is "While we all have lots of band who influence, still, we all rip off Meshuggah".
Doesn't read as a typical dev lyric, but that's what it sounds like.

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