Hey! You're awake!
#191495 by The Dev
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:02 pm
I totally appreciate that!

What I´m wondering though, is if you COULD be vauge, yet say something really pointed at the same time, and wrap it in that aesthetic, maybe you could make a hilarious point?

Especially if the lyrics are subversive?

Maybe I could wear a wig?

The whole point of the dtp (4 records) is to clarify myself, for me and the audience, and the things left unresolved at this point is my distain towards the industry for celebrating mediocrity. Maybe the lesson will be that it is inevitable and beautifully ironic in a way?

I need to figure that out with Addicted.

And with deconstruct, I´ve tried twice to make an incredibly complicated statement (Infinity and Alien) and both times it overtook me...now that I am clear headed, I need to try one last time, probably proving to myself once and for all that those types of music ultimately are not emotionally satisfying.

You see, this dtp is a catharsis and a purge, I need to know what my motivation has been? I need to clarify myself as explorative and not crazy, I´ve just been stoned and insecure. If I truly want to explore music in different genres in the future (soundtracks, plays, symphonies etc) I need to purge these needs and hangups I´ve had for years. The result is awesome in my opinion, but I already know the outcome, and it needs to happen a certain way. THATs why these are being done consecutively. I am still in touch with those motivations and hang ups (regardless of weather many of them have been resolved) but the resolution album (4) will not make sense without very accurate illustrations of the issues that brought that resolution about.

It´s a shame, I´d like to just resolve it, but without clarity, the resolution will make no sense.

It´s fun, for the first time in 10 years, I feel honored to be a musician...if I am doing music for the right reasons, theres no way I´d not tour and promote it, it just took these past three years to be a little more honest with myself.
#191496 by gendralman
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:03 pm
it's all that goddamn honesty and integrity getting in your way

believe me Dev if you just made straight-up radio songs for Giant American Label you'd be better at it than any of these clowns, but who the hell wants to hear that? you make ART.

in twenty years nickelback's gonna have the cultural value of vanilla ice

you're gonna be devin townsend forever
#191497 by The Dev
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:09 pm
OK, how ´bout a pseudonym?

Charles Fuckbot
Reggie McAwesome
Dick Gozinya
Luke Sexington
Pops Whoreson
Chad Krueger
Smelly Fartcloudo
Allanus Morrisette
Urethra Franklin?
#191500 by Ageia
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:13 pm
you'll have to release an EP where you do a cover of Let It Rock if you're going to outdo Nickelback .. . . . . .!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIvqww6xUVQ

or not, actually
#191502 by AlucardXIX
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:34 pm
The Dev wrote:OK, how ´bout a pseudonym?

Charles Fuckbot
Reggie McAwesome
Dick Gozinya
Luke Sexington
Pops Whoreson
Chad Krueger
Smelly Fartcloudo
Allanus Morrisette
Urethra Franklin?


Beautiful. Every one of them.

Use one and make an album with me! haha
#191503 by theoryman
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:36 pm
Wait, seriously? Nickelback, quite possibly the cheesiest rock band on the radio today, called *you* cheesy? I have no words.

The thing I hate about them is they sound completely processed, calculated, formulated, contrived, carefully crafted...it's like a band created by the biggest slickest marketing firm in history. Of course, that's how a lot of music I hear on the radio sounds to me. Marketing. I agree with what Bill Hicks said about marketing...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

Why would you want to be a part of this club anyway?
#191504 by Liquid
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:37 pm
The Dev wrote:Urethra Franklin?


That one has come up in conversation before. Actually, I think it was Catchphrase. It's got a nice ring to it.
#191506 by Devy, spelled Devy!
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:43 pm
Hrellir wrote:It's funny though, when I think of Canadian music I think Devin Townsend, I also think Jeff Waters. For me I tend to associate Canadian music with talented players and musicians. And some of the most extreme music I've heard, like SYL, Annihilator and such. Hell stuff like Gorguts and Cryptopsy is good stuff aswell.

Avril or Nickelback don't even enter into the equation. To me they're generic straight of the conveyor belt American label bands, I don't even see them as Canadian.

I think general view here in tiny little Iceland atleast is that these folks aren't Canadians so people don't associate their music with Canada.

On the other hand, when I think Canada I also think Celine Dion, she can sing though there's no doubting that.


Most Americans would also think of Rush when they think of Canada.
And then they'd think "I hate that band cuz that singer chick has a really high voice. Except I kinda like that one song...." *trails off*

I mean, I love Rush, lots of people here do - but a lot of people think of them as t'hose Canadian guys' too :sad:

Anyways... enough of that.
#191509 by The Dev
Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:45 pm
Favorite record when I was 15:

Hysteria.
#191511 by hakmed
Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:21 pm
I saw corey heart on the boy in box tour at the mtl forum.. man he meant business :guitar:
#191512 by mineralinsulated
Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:40 pm
All that current popular shit like 'idol', MTV and most FM Radio etc, is world wide and identical. Bands Like Nickleback could come from any country as its a generic music, its a sort of aural wallpaper that when people listen to, they can't hear or feel it as theres nothing to hear or feel.
So Dev i dont know if you need to feel that this a problem unique to Canada, its world wide. When i think of Canadian musicians, i dont think Avril or Nickleback, (until today i never considered where they were from) I think of yourself, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell and Rush (to name a few)
Like here in Australia, Kylie Minogue is a Superstar but she no more represents this Countrys musical voice than Nickleback does Canadas..
Just a thought
#191514 by daneulephus
Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:08 pm
The Dev wrote:Favorite record when I was 15:

Hysteria.


A-Fucking-Men brother !!

Except I was only 10. Doesn't matter....I think it must have had the same impact, cuz I too have a hard-on for those lush-ly produced "breathy" layers of vox.......

"Rocket" will always brighten up my day no matter what mood I am in. Love the chorus.......I can see where they must have influenced you.
#191516 by TheOmniscient
Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:18 pm
If you're doing an anti music industry album you've gotta have a loudness war song that gets more and more compressed as it goes on 'til it's inaudible as to what's happening. It'd be hilarious. Use a really catchy tune and completely destroy it! I can almost hear the chanting now. LOUDER LOUDER!!!
#191517 by VoiceInTheFan
Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:25 pm
C**t Anus.... Did anyone else get it??? I apologize if I've hurt any feminists' feelings.

Anyway, sounds like a hell of an undertaking and if you are proud to be a musician, then I am equally as proud to be fan... Makes me excited to hear what other kind of crazy (sorry, explorative) stuff there is on the horizon.

On the subject of Infinity and Alien, I remember someone quoting Hendrix saying that he had all this beautiful music in his noggin, but with limited ways of expressing it, it was only frustrating to sit down on the guitar and try to recreate it. I find that the "complex" musical statements you've made really reach for something more than just the notes and the lyrics and I believe they've been appreciated in the manner they have been because they strive for said "something more." Hardly failures in my eyes.

Oh and don't worry about fucking Nickelback, they suck ass. A random dude who works at the local movie theater last week gave me 5 pennies in change because in his words, he "couldn't live with giving me a nickel back, because they suck." The feeling is universal if you really put an ear to the ground.
#191518 by OceanMachine15
Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:39 pm
Dev, all I can say is at the end of the day, you've gotta make music for you. All you really need is one mainstream song to hit the big time. Just one, and people will suddenly buy (or pirate) the album. And curious people will start listening to your older stuff and spreading the word about how amazing that stuff is. And then you will be a legend. Your music is too good to have it any other way. Even if you were stoned out of your mind when making all the other records, it doesn't change the fact that they are all extremely good if not perfect CDs. (Especially Physicist, I don't know why people hate on it so much. Material and Planet Rain are epic).

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