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Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:06 pm
by twoheadedboy
Hey Devin,
Can you please tell us a bit about the guitar signal chain on Addicted? I'd love to know what went into the guitar sounds on various songs. I'm curious about the bass signal chain as well. Unleash yr nerd, please!
Mark
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:44 pm
by Dewy
agreed, I'd like to know what amps and whatnot were used for this...
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:17 am
by The Dev
Well I had a (very) limited budget, so I did what I could with outboard gear (I have a decent pre, no eq Chandler tg2) But I ran a Budda, Revalver, Recto and my XTLive with my old GP100. Straight up, a 57 and 421 etc... different chains for different songs. Always tracked a DI and farted around with Revalver on my imac.
Bass is a Sansamp RBI with a Demiter on the direct.
Maybe one day I could afford one of those ssl digital 24 channels desks to have all that hardware q and compression, but until then it's all in the computer.
You do what you can with what you've got, you know? I know Colin Richardson is like 50k to mix and album and up...and thats basically 4x more than the entire budget for this...art, flights, food, photos, rehearsal space etc included.
I'm very proud of it. I know I'll never please everyone, but it seems like the album is making most folks happy, and thats ultimately the best reward.
Thanks for the support, 2 more coming soon.
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:56 am
by Mealz
ooohhhh i would love to hear what you could do with an ssl dev!!!
I wonder how much of the revalver got onto addicted though???
thanks for the info, awesomeness!
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:35 am
by daneulephus
The Dev wrote:Well I had a (very) limited budget, so I did what I could with outboard gear (I have a decent pre, no eq Chandler tg2) But I ran a Budda, Revalver, Recto and my XTLive with my old GP100. Straight up, a 57 and 421 etc... different chains for different songs. Always tracked a DI and farted around with Revalver on my imac.
Bass is a Sansamp RBI with a Demiter on the direct.
Maybe one day I could afford one of those ssl digital 24 channels desks to have all that hardware q and compression, but until then it's all in the computer.
You do what you can with what you've got, you know? I know Colin Richardson is like 50k to mix and album and up...and thats basically 4x more than the entire budget for this...art, flights, food, photos, rehearsal space etc included.
I'm very proud of it. I know I'll never please everyone, but it seems like the album is making most folks happy, and thats ultimately the best reward.
Thanks for the support, 2 more coming soon.
I'd like to think I am pretty knowledgable about recording and gear and such, but some of this confuses me. For the main rhythm crunch, did you run the recto in conjunction with the XT and Revalver? Or was it various combos? Does Revalver mainly work to put on top of an already recorded track, or do you use it live, as you are playing? I wanna get into using more plug-ins like Revalver, but I am kind of a dumb ass about it all...sorry.
Also, what is a Demiter?
Btw, it is AMAZING that you did all of this on such a low budget. IMO, your end product wastes anything Colin could've done. Yes, his productions are immaculate...but that is the problem. They are too perfect sometimes, and generally sound the same from artist to artist. Same with Sneap.
Kudos to you.

Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:46 am
by twoheadedboy
Wow, Devin. First, thanks so much for the info. Second, it's absolutely incredible that you were able to pull this off on such a low budget. It's very inspiring to those of us who strive to do as much of the recording process ourselves as we can. By the way, I just bought my tickets to the Toronto show. See you there!
Mark
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:17 pm
by Dewy
The Dev wrote:Well I had a (very) limited budget, so I did what I could with outboard gear (I have a decent pre, no eq Chandler tg2) But I ran a Budda, Revalver, Recto and my XTLive with my old GP100. Straight up, a 57 and 421 etc... different chains for different songs. Always tracked a DI and farted around with Revalver on my imac.
Bass is a Sansamp RBI with a Demiter on the direct.
Maybe one day I could afford one of those ssl digital 24 channels desks to have all that hardware q and compression, but until then it's all in the computer.
You do what you can with what you've got, you know? I know Colin Richardson is like 50k to mix and album and up...and thats basically 4x more than the entire budget for this...art, flights, food, photos, rehearsal space etc included.
I'm very proud of it. I know I'll never please everyone, but it seems like the album is making most folks happy, and thats ultimately the best reward.
Thanks for the support, 2 more coming soon.
What patches/models were used on Revalver and the XT? And when you say 57 and a 421, do you mean for the Recto and Budda, or on the modeling stuff as well?
An SM57 and MD421 together is probably my favorite mic combo..the having the 421 just a bit lower than the 57 really fills in the gaps, everything's much fuller I guess.
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:19 am
by mattyryan86
i know i could never get a SSL desk but you can get one simular DEV
a SSL Duende or a UAD-2 plugins and DSP power for your recording program which im guessing is Pro Tools now.
here some links so check it out man...
http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/duende/PCIe/index.asphttp://www.uaudio.com/products/uad/uad2quad/index.htmlim actually thinking of getting the duende just coz its a little cheaper, id love to get the UAD but bit expensive for me and u still gotta spend a little to get the good plugins...
just my 2 cents of it all.
but back on topic, i just got into guitar sims and im loving the Amplitude 2 and Revalver MK3, awesome stuff, i will never buy and amp again.. lol
i do have the old POD 2.0 so that keeps me going in rehersals and stuff, does what i need it to do.
currently im working a big project with some buddies of mine and gonna be using guitar sims mostly so ill see how it turns.

Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:27 pm
by Dewy
mattyryan86 wrote:i know i could never get a SSL desk but you can get one simular DEV
a SSL Duende or a UAD-2 plugins and DSP power for your recording program which im guessing is Pro Tools now.
here some links so check it out man...
http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/duende/PCIe/index.asp
http://www.uaudio.com/products/uad/uad2quad/index.html
im actually thinking of getting the duende just coz its a little cheaper, id love to get the UAD but bit expensive for me and u still gotta spend a little to get the good plugins...
just my 2 cents of it all.
but back on topic, i just got into guitar sims and im loving the Amplitude 2 and Revalver MK3, awesome stuff, i will never buy and amp again.. lol
i do have the old POD 2.0 so that keeps me going in rehersals and stuff, does what i need it to do.
currently im working a big project with some buddies of mine and gonna be using guitar sims mostly so ill see how it turns. 
I have never dialed in a single good tone with Revalver...what's the secret?
Re: Nerd Alert! Guitar question for Dev

Posted:
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:14 pm
by the_s_rabbit
Man, this shit is so crazy. You should dangle a $10 desktop computer mic in front of a 15-watt Fender Bullet and see what your expensive software is made of.