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Hey Dev

Loving the way you work, and the sounds you create got me thinking about your approach mixing..

Where you have an album and your mixing within Protools, would you mix the whole album in one Protools session? or would you have say 8 different sessions (1 for each track) ?? The reason I ask, is often I find myself spending so much time opening up each session and trying to get them all to sound the same!! (most frustrating!)

Id love to have all the outboard gear, but its all about the dosh eh!!

Just another thought, now that you have obviously learnt an amazing amount of production techniques have you thought about remixing any of your albums? Not that they need them!!

Thanks Dev, ps still eagerly awaiting KI!!!

Regards

fabpab wrote:Hey Dev

Loving the way you work, and the sounds you create got me thinking about your approach mixing..

Where you have an album and your mixing within Protools, would you mix the whole album in one Protools session? or would you have say 8 different sessions (1 for each track) ?? The reason I ask, is often I find myself spending so much time opening up each session and trying to get them all to sound the same!! (most frustrating!)

Id love to have all the outboard gear, but its all about the dosh eh!!

Just another thought, now that you have obviously learnt an amazing amount of production techniques have you thought about remixing any of your albums? Not that they need them!!

Thanks Dev, ps still eagerly awaiting KI!!!

Regards

I know I am not Devin, but one thing that helps me is creating Track Templates and saving them. So, if you start recording one song and assign plug-ins to each track...just save it as a template. When you go to record another track, open that template and you are all set.

This however may not help if the tones you are recording INTO Protools are different- i.e.- If you record guitar one day, and then record it again a month later....it will sound different.

Hope that helps....meh....that shit is hard to explain clearly!!

Dan

Ha cheers for the tip. Its a good one, i guess it would work realy well for digital/dance music but music that has lots of live insttuments could be tricky! Mind you if you used lots of auxes and effects then it will work ok too!

Back to devin, i bet albums like hummer he did all on 1 session maybe even ziltoid!

I have lots of sessions for each song, on an HD protools setups, you can input session data and have all the levels consistent from track to track, including plug in etc.

Hey dev, thanks for the reply! I only have pt8 with a 002r. So i guess im not entitled to such wonders! Ha

If anyone is willing to answer my plea, I have a question:
what are some decent recording programs you could recommend?
and what sort of equipment for recording? my drummer has an M-Box and a decent condenser mic, which I could use to make a decent recording.
but I need a good program, which isn't too wallet-burning.
any suggestions?

Cubase and Nuendo are incredible if you run PC...not so much on Mac.

Protools 8 in slick and intuitive on Mac, albeit a little behind Steinberg (Nuendo) in terms of tiny time saving things. But industry standard in North America, so there's lots of resources for troubleshooting.

Logic is neat, with some really cool features, but theres a few basic things about it that make me CRAZY. (editing) but lots of cool instruments, effects and loops for a low price, plus Waveburner and Mainstage, ...both cool.

Ableton is genius, but not practical as of yet for the meat and potatoes d.a.w functions. Great for improv and unique ideas. As far as your creativity allows, you can go with it. Love it for that.

Haven't used Reaper, no need for me, but folks think it's going to evolve into something great.

DP I have no idea. Reason is not for me...I've used it and it's deep, but it's to graphic for my tastes, the virtual rack annoys me for some reason.

so would you say cubase and Pro Tolls are on the same wavelength as in will sound no different just different layout of the program?

Also which did you find easier to use? i am used to Pro Tools as ive studied it and everything but as the last guy says i needed something a little wallet light for a really good pre amp and AD/DA conversion as i cant afford HD and the 002/003 dont have good converters and pres.

The Dev wrote:Cubase and Nuendo are incredible if you run PC...not so much on Mac.

Protools 8 in slick and intuitive on Mac, albeit a little behind Steinberg (Nuendo) in terms of tiny time saving things. But industry standard in North America, so there's lots of resources for troubleshooting.

Logic is neat, with some really cool features, but theres a few basic things about it that make me CRAZY. (editing) but lots of cool instruments, effects and loops for a low price, plus Waveburner and Mainstage, ...both cool.

Ableton is genius, but not practical as of yet for the meat and potatoes d.a.w functions. Great for improv and unique ideas. As far as your creativity allows, you can go with it. Love it for that.

Haven't used Reaper, no need for me, but folks think it's going to evolve into something great.

DP I have no idea. Reason is not for me...I've used it and it's deep, but it's to graphic for my tastes, the virtual rack annoys me for some reason.

I think Logic or Ableton look like my best bet. I'll just have to research their prices 'round here.
Thanks for the advice!

The Dev wrote:DP I have no idea. Reason is not for me...I've used it and it's deep, but it's to graphic for my tastes, the virtual rack annoys me for some reason.

I know why it annoys you....because there are TOO MANY options. You could sit there for 10 years and still be piddling away finding sounds or tweaking.

BTW.....Sonar is amazing. I use producer edition 8 right now, and the user friendly simplicity is fantastic. Plus, it is made by Roland now. How can you go wrong?

The Dev wrote:Cubase and Nuendo are incredible if you run PC...not so much on Mac.

Protools 8 in slick and intuitive on Mac, albeit a little behind Steinberg (Nuendo) in terms of tiny time saving things. But industry standard in North America, so there's lots of resources for troubleshooting.

Logic is neat, with some really cool features, but theres a few basic things about it that make me CRAZY. (editing) but lots of cool instruments, effects and loops for a low price, plus Waveburner and Mainstage, ...both cool.

Ableton is genius, but not practical as of yet for the meat and potatoes d.a.w functions. Great for improv and unique ideas. As far as your creativity allows, you can go with it. Love it for that.

Haven't used Reaper, no need for me, but folks think it's going to evolve into something great.

DP I have no idea. Reason is not for me...I've used it and it's deep, but it's to graphic for my tastes, the virtual rack annoys me for some reason.

I did used Reaper and the big +'s on that program is that it's very user friendly even if you don't get a thing about music or producing, it doesn't need allot of memory and with Reaper it's very easy to record vocals, especially if you want to record multiple tracks.
Devin do you know fruity loops? I use that program for creating loops with drumkit from hell, or when I want to make a weird trance/electronic/creepy shit song, it's a very simple program which can load all of the VST/VSTI plugins, I don't think it's something for Dev by the way cause it's very simple haha.

Vanished wrote:I did used Reaper and the big +'s on that program is that it's very user friendly even if you don't get a thing about music or producing, it doesn't need allot of memory and with Reaper it's very easy to record vocals, especially if you want to record multiple tracks.

I can provide myself as an example of absolute home recording retard, that had no problems getting how to do things in Reaper - somehow every bit of music software I've seen before looked cryptic as hell, and Reaper has just everything in places I was expecting them. Slick stuff indeed, they also say it's great in features department as well (can't verify that, I'm a recording retard - I like the routing matrix feature, though). And installer is whopping 4,5MB, which amazes me to no end.