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#205950 by BrunoN
Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:04 pm
Cheers,

Cynry's thread reminded me of NINJAM, almost-realtime internet jam gizmo made by blokes of Reaper and Winamp fame. Somehow never payed much attention to it, but decided to give it a closer look, and it actually looks pretty cool.

As far as I know, realtime internet jamming is pretty hard to do thanks to network and processing latencies - there will be always xx milliseconds of synch-ruining delay. NINJAM developers solved latency problem in very cunning way - they inreased latency even more - participants hear themselves in measure-long intervals. Which sounds kinda retarded, and maybe is, but looks like a potential of lots of random jamey fun.

Application side, it can be either a simple standalone client program (in Windows, Mac OS X and Linux flavours) or Reaper with NINJAM plugin (it's bundled with it, Reaper's unlimited shareware by the way). Using NINJAM within Reaper has added profit of ability of using any VST/VSTi plugin you want, so it's possible to play softsynths or feed the jam session with drums from drum machine (in case of problems with a lack of a live drummer on a session - I can imagine it being quite a problem).

After connecting to NINJAM server, you'll see a window like this:

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Where every remote participant is on separate track on the right (you can mix volumes and panning to your taste, as you can see) - your track's on the left, tick the "xmit" box and you're now sending what you're playing to the jam. There's of course a click track, and and bottom side of the window shows the interval/measure lenght. It looks quite simple, there are short manuals and faqs how to set it up (with important advices like "set input level to -10db to not overpower others" or "tune your instrument"):

http://ninbot.com/faq#jam
http://ninjamer.com/faq

There are also public servers here:

http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php

They allow anonymous access, but if you want a private server setting one up is a breeze, it's small and simple package (tested it, works, no problem with hosting one).

Anyone find it interesting? Checking mp3 section of NINJAM site revealed that people are having lots of fun making tons of horrible music, which is right up my alley I must admit.
#206810 by BrunoN
Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:55 am
Wow, either it's lot less interesting than I thought or I'm really shit at describing things :(
#206823 by grrrv
Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:00 am
Well, jamming is nice, but it's always more fun in person. The delay caused by the lag in this seems like it would be a total pain in the ass...

What I'm saying is that the idea is interesting, but I don't see why I'd want to participate. :?

BrunoN, what kind of sessions have you had with it so far?
#207007 by BrunoN
Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:56 am
Sure it's way inferior to proper jamming, no doubt, but still looks like a bit of fun. I didn't try to jam with anyone yet, only checked how plugin worked and listened to others' sessions (usually sounded like steamrolling kittens, but had some good moments).

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