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24.24.1.615 JayjayAbnormal [Deceased]

and just yesterday I was actually the first person to find a hidden message in a song by going in to the remix files released for it (Capital G)

And according to people on the Spiral, it lists people who have participated in the ARG (Alternate Reality Game)

awesome dude

Pretty awesome marketing concept by Trent.

sadly, as of now, the most memorable thing about year zero is how the cd changes color, and the trent-rap in capital g

the whole marketing around the cd looks interesting, but i havent had the energy to follow it all, but its cool that it seems interactive enough

For a dead guy you're awefully chatty

Kewl JJAB!

I used to like NiN but at this point the politics just makes me ill. I could go into detail but I'd be a hypocrite if I talked politics after making that statement. Regardless of who's in office wherever, we have to rise above name-calling and cheap innuendo.

With Teeth was very, very interesting musically, and since it wasn't entirely about politics, it was tolerable. But this new one, it's basically about a future where the world is destroyed because W was president, isn't it? Not to mention the only song that's interesting to me in any way is "Me, I'm Not," and only musically.

Fuzzplug Jones wrote:I used to like NiN but at this point the politics just makes me ill. I could go into detail but I'd be a hypocrite if I talked politics after making that statement. Regardless of who's in office wherever, we have to rise above name-calling and cheap innuendo.

With Teeth was very, very interesting musically, and since it wasn't entirely about politics, it was tolerable. But this new one, it's basically about a future where the world is destroyed because W was president, isn't it? Not to mention the only song that's interesting to me in any way is "Me, I'm Not," and only musically.

Has nothing to do with Bush. A lot of people get confused about the song (and new single) 'Capital G'. The 'G' actually stands for Greed, although even I at first thought Trent meant G as in 'George Bush'.

It's just basically about a future with corrupt administration everywhere. No war in Iraq mentioned anywhere on the sites (Might need to double-check though) or on the album

JayjayAbnormal wrote:

Fuzzplug Jones wrote:I used to like NiN but at this point the politics just makes me ill. I could go into detail but I'd be a hypocrite if I talked politics after making that statement. Regardless of who's in office wherever, we have to rise above name-calling and cheap innuendo.

With Teeth was very, very interesting musically, and since it wasn't entirely about politics, it was tolerable. But this new one, it's basically about a future where the world is destroyed because W was president, isn't it? Not to mention the only song that's interesting to me in any way is "Me, I'm Not," and only musically.

Has nothing to do with Bush. A lot of people get confused about the song (and new single) 'Capital G'. The 'G' actually stands for Greed, although even I at first thought Trent meant G as in 'George Bush'.

It's just basically about a future with corrupt administration everywhere. No war in Iraq mentioned anywhere on the sites (Might need to double-check though) or on the album

Frankly I thought he was making the standard wealthy-entertainer/forced-mentor statement that people who spell God with a captial G (i.e. Christians) are wrong to do so. The song "Heresy" from Downward Spiral comes to mind. I don't want to sound paranoid, but this album is technically about Bush... just like a bunch of songs about corrupt administrations, war, and "dropping the bomb" were all the rage when Reagan was president.

I'm not a big fan of political lyrics but for Trent Year Zero is a step up lyrically (I guess I'm even less of a fan of 30 year olds writing lyrics 14 year olds can relate to emotionally). Musically I think its more interesting than With Teeth because I like ambient NIN more than straight up rock NIN, but I like it when he finds a nice balance between the two like on his first 3 albums.

Overall it just makes me want to listen to Coil or Sigur Ros or something.

Noodles wrote:I'm not a big fan of political lyrics but for Trent Year Zero is a step up lyrically (I guess I'm even less of a fan of 30 year olds writing lyrics 14 year olds can relate to emotionally). Musically I think its more interesting than With Teeth because I like ambient NIN more than straight up rock NIN, but I like it when he finds a nice balance between the two like on his first 3 albums.

Overall it just makes me want to listen to Coil or Sigur Ros or something.

There you go!

Enough is enough with the politics. From a standpoint of snark and division, Reznor = Limbaugh = Franken = Hannity = Moore = O'Reilly = Green Day. Accomplishes nothing. I'm almost ecstatic that Jonsi makes up his own language - I don't know what the hell he's saying and these days it's a blessing.

(The Reznor rap made me gag.)

Yeah, main reason I'm against politics in music is because generally when a band dedicates their music to a message their fans will agree with blindly, which generally makes them just as bad as the sheep or whatever they are trying to crucify with their music. The only time I've thought it was done in an intelligent was in in the live version of Tool's Third Eye with the "think for yourself, question authority" intro (keyword being "question", not "resist" or "fuck"). That's probably not the only one but it's a good example.

Most bands I love either have incomprehensible lyrics, vague lyrics, or lyrics that just don't make sense. Having a precise message or meaning to a song kind of spoils a bit of the music for me.

Noodles wrote:Yeah, main reason I'm against politics in music is because generally when a band dedicates their music to a message their fans will agree with blindly, which generally makes them just as bad as the sheep or whatever they are trying to crucify with their music. The only time I've thought it was done in an intelligent was in in the live version of Tool's Third Eye with the "think for yourself, question authority" intro (keyword being "question", not "resist" or "fuck"). That's probably not the only one but it's a good example.

Most bands I love either have incomprehensible lyrics, vague lyrics, or lyrics that just don't make sense. Having a precise message or meaning to a song kind of spoils a bit of the music for me.

See we're not so different

Seriously though, even Tool fans end up in a particular political persuasion, I wish bands would just get it through their heads that if a rock god tells you "think for yourself" you're not going to disagree with him!

Wasn't there a Perfect Circle album that was much along the lines of what we're talking about?

haha I totally forgot about that A Perfect Circle album. Probably because I listened to it all of twice after buying it the day it came out The Patient or w/e was a cool song

Fuzzplug Jones wrote: Reznor = Limbaugh = Franken = Hannity = Moore = O'Reilly = Green Day.

nice one



i personally agree that politics and music should be kept seperate as much as possible. But i also think that if music is really from the heart, some of your political beliefs are going to come through, because politics and life aren't necessarily mutually exclusive...