theres a fucking moth downstairs

its huge

ITS THE SIZE OF A FUCKING BAT



FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Fuck little bitchass Bay Area teenagers.
Fuck Purple Drank.

does anyone know how long this legislations been in place? did anyone hear about this? cuz I sure didnt

fuck purple drank!!!!!!!

Oh damn, that's horrible!!! I suppose because back in the day when you could just walk into a store and buy cold medicines (how outrageous!! :sarcastic:) people could buy large quantities of cough syrup, NyQuil, Claritin etc. and use selective ingredients to make meth and other narcotics with that shit. So now, you can only buy 1 at a time, and you need ID, and they keep a lot of medicines behind the counter.

Maybe I'm telling you something you already know, but I find it horrendous too. There's always someone who fucks it up for everyone else.

So... it's ridiculous. But, people are idiots.

P.s I had to look up 'purple drank' ... cuz I had no idea what that was; and wow, that's pretty fucked up. So I guess purple drank is one more reason why you couldn't buy your NyQuil

this legislation was put in place with its sole purpose being keeping kids and teens from using DXM recreationally.

But you are right about the meth thing. Any thing you can make drugs out of is usually banned outright...You can't make anything out of DXM, and tis a common house hold item, nearly everyone in the US has it in the medicine cabinet. People would be mad if was pulled of the market. And it would deal a crippling blow (financially) to the companies who distribute it.

Actually I think alot of brand name companies cut off manufacturing non-prescription medicines containing pseudoephedrine (meth ingredient) all together. But like you said there is still some behind the counter selling and the laws are really strict. Those who choose to by pseudoephedrine have to disclose theyre personal information so they can keep an eye on them for 2 years after purchase! and the vendors have to go through alot of shit too just to sell it.

Like if you look at Sudafed now, the pseudoephedrine has been replaced with phenylephrine. which is bullshit because studies have shown that phenylephrine is totally ineffective as a decongestant. And get this, some medicines marketed for colds and allergies contain nothing except phenylephrine, thats false advertising! They basically steal the buyers money!

The drug industry does some fucked up shit. Did you know that the FDA can be paid off by fat companies so that harmful and/or untested drugs can be put on the market quicker?

My cousin got really sick from the vaccine, Gardasil, and now theyre trying to make it a mandatory vaccine for all girls of school age!

Now thats plain un-awsome!

[Keeker]

theres a fucking moth downstairs

its huge

ITS THE SIZE OF A FUCKING BAT



FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

I feel your pain. I hate them when they are fluttering around a room noisily but, strangely, I once kept and hatched out some tiger moths which were really rather beautiful. Picked up the caterpillars in the garden and took it from there. Let them go outside once they were out of the chrysalis.

But flutter near my head, you buggers, and I'll turn into a human windmill and exit stage left, rapidly! I am a wimp.

this legislation was put in place with its the sole purpose being keeping kids and teens from using DXM recreationally.

But you are right about the meth thing. Any thing you can make drugs out of is usually banned outright...You can't make anything out of DXM, and tis a common house hold item, nearly everyone in the US has it in the medicine cabinet. People would be mad if was pulled of the market. And it would deal a crippling blow (financially) to the companies who distribute it.

Actually I think alot of brand name companies cut off manufacturing non-prescription medicines containing pseudoephedrine (meth ingredient) all together. But like you said there is still some behind the counter selling and the laws are really strict. Those who choose to by pseudoephedrine have to disclose theyre personal information so they can keep an eye on them for 2 years after purchase! and the vendors have to go through alot of shit too just to sell it.

Like if you look at Sudafed now, the pseudoephedrine has been replaced with phenylephrine. which is bullshit because studies have shown that phenylephrine is totally ineffective as a decongestant. And get this, some medicines marketed for colds and allergies contain nothing except phenylephrine, thats false advertising! They basically steal the buyers money!

The drug industry does some fucked up shit. Did you know that the FDA can be paid off by fat companies so that harmful and/or untested drugs can be put on the market quicker?

My cousin got really sick from the vaccine, Gardasil, and now theyre trying to make it a mandatory vaccine for all girls of school age!

Now thats plain un-awsome!

Fuck that...pseudoephedrine is one of the only things that helps me when my allergies flare up. I hope they never stop using it dammit.

this legislation was put in place with its the sole purpose being keeping kids and teens from using DXM recreationally.

But you are right about the meth thing. Any thing you can make drugs out of is usually banned outright...You can't make anything out of DXM, and tis a common house hold item, nearly everyone in the US has it in the medicine cabinet. People would be mad if was pulled of the market. And it would deal a crippling blow (financially) to the companies who distribute it.

Actually I think alot of brand name companies cut off manufacturing non-prescription medicines containing pseudoephedrine (meth ingredient) all together. But like you said there is still some behind the counter selling and the laws are really strict. Those who choose to by pseudoephedrine have to disclose theyre personal information so they can keep an eye on them for 2 years after purchase! and the vendors have to go through alot of shit too just to sell it.

Like if you look at Sudafed now, the pseudoephedrine has been replaced with phenylephrine. which is bullshit because studies have shown that phenylephrine is totally ineffective as a decongestant. And get this, some medicines marketed for colds and allergies contain nothing except phenylephrine, thats false advertising! They basically steal the buyers money!

The drug industry does some fucked up shit. Did you know that the FDA can be paid off by fat companies so that harmful and/or untested drugs can be put on the market quicker?

My cousin got really sick from the vaccine, Gardasil, and now theyre trying to make it a mandatory vaccine for all girls of school age!

Now thats plain un-awsome!

Nice, you said it much better than I could have. That's so fucked up though - all of it! People are always going to produce narcotics no matter what, so it seems unfair to punish everyone else, because of a certain population, who will find another way to do it anyhow.
I didn't know that about the phenylephrine though- that's a shock. I guess pharmaceutical companies have never been known to have their best interests in the general public, or their consumers.

Oh man, Gardasil!? *shudder* I got the first injection a while ago ... I guess you have to get 3, but after just the 1 I never went back for the others. It made me feel like I had a mild cold, and the injection site swelled up and got red and really itchy. It lasted about a week. Not the worst thing ever, but usually vaccines make your arm a little sore, but nothing more than that.

Un-awesome? I'll give you un-awesome.

People are still being burned alive in the name of religious and superstitious bullshit. In Kenya recently, several people were beaten savagely and thrown in a fire for being associated with witchcraft. The association? They had little "charms." Imagine sitting at home, in a nation developed enough to have internet availability, in the 21st fucking century, when you're accused of being a witch by the rest of your villagers. You're then pulled out of your home and lynched by a mob of deluded, machete- and other crude weapon-wielding lunatics--maybe you're hanged, or maybe you're beaten with sticks across the face and head as if it's some sort of amusing spectacle while you're forced to be human fuel.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm so incredibly irritated that this sort of bullshit still happens. Oppression and "evil," all man-made, all under the guise of some superiority, typically religious. It wasn't so long ago that Nazism took its stranglehold in killing millions of Jews, gays, blacks, gypsies, and other non-Aryans or even that Christians were burning (and committing other, much more horrible atrocities) to "witches" and other unfavorables (read: political opposition). We've come so far, haven't we? We've come far enough to have recognized the need for equality among all of mankind, and in science there has been devised a careful method of discovery and verification so that there is no need for superstition. Right now, in fact, I'm using technology that was previously unfathomable. And yet, the majority of humanity still feels the need to cling to these hereditary frameworks of delusional, iniquitous, nefariously moronic constructs.

Religion is a unifying force, and a moral encouragement. But also a horribly wicked justification for some of the worsts aspects of humanity. It seems that mankind is doomed forever to be children, content in the comfort of the ignorant bliss of idiosyncrasy. I'm not a militant atheist--the forceful eradication of religion would accomplish nothing. Man must open his mind, be aware of his surroundings, and know that there is only what is, and be comforted in his insignificance. The universe is so incredible, that it still remains a mystery why man values competitive, individualistic nonsense over a wonder so vast and intriguing.

This is not meant to offend theists (or anyone else), and I apologize if it has. By all means, believe. But know that the implications of belief, at least on a large scale, are often egregiously unpalatable.

Apologies for the rant.

Your rant is very welcome, and correct in a lot of aspects. Any religion that kills off people it doesn't like is wrong. It's unjustifiable. Catholics, muslims, and almost every other religion, large or small, has committed acts of those kinds.

Religion is a unifying force, like you said, and a lot of religions today have moved far past the primitive ways of the past. Some have not, as you stated.

Getting rid of religion all together is impossible...It really is, you have to take into account how many people in this world, not just in well developed countries, have a belief system. But as you said, it's worthless to do so.

As for the moral encouragement, yes I do believe that is probably the best thing any religion can do for someone, give them a set of guidelines to live their life by. Even if you aren't religious I think everyone should have a set of morals they believe in. Which I'm sure you do.

Unfortunately, with the sheer number of religions in the world, and their followers, it is impossible to do away with it. And I'm glad you're not another one of those atheists that pushes atheism on others, which is just the same as religious people pushing their beliefs on others. I've noticed that many atheists are just as hypocritical as they claim the people they hate are.

Your rant is very welcome, and correct in a lot of aspects. Any religion that kills off people it doesn't like is wrong. It's unjustifiable. Catholics, muslims, and almost every other religion, large or small, has committed acts of those kinds.

Religion is a unifying force, like you said, and a lot of religions today have moved far past the primitive ways of the past. Some have not, as you stated.

Getting rid of religion all together is impossible...It really is, you have to take into account how many people in this world, not just in well developed countries, have a belief system. But as you said, it's worthless to do so.

As for the moral encouragement, yes I do believe that is probably the best thing any religion can do for someone, give them a set of guidelines to live their life by. Even if you aren't religious I think everyone should have a set of morals they believe in. Which I'm sure you do.

Unfortunately, with the sheer number of religions in the world, and their followers, it is impossible to do away with it. And I'm glad you're not another one of those atheists that pushes atheism on others, which is just the same as religious people pushing their beliefs on others. I've noticed that many atheists are just as hypocritical as they claim the people they hate are.

Well, in retrospect I rather regret the rant--but I needed to release the emotions brewed by having seen a video of the aforementioned horrors in Kenya. And the context in which I watched spurred an anti-religious sentiment. But the point I was trying to make (and it sounds from your post as though I didn't fuck it up too royally) is that there are an incredible number of problems with the world and with man, and the majority of them are entirely created by man himself. Sometimes they only exist because man has deemed them a problem. Regardless, there are several "justifications" for simply awful behavior. Religion is a common one, and I don't think that any religion has moved past any amount of immorality (especially when the holy books are littered with truly terrifying displays of callous depravity), but rather that its followers have advanced to the point of humane interaction. That is, religion evolves only as do its followers, and religion on the whole is a broad brushstroke to represent like-minded people. But a serious issue with it is the associated mythology and the (hopefully) unintended consequences thereof.

Religion is unifying in concept but often divisive in practice. It organizes groups, which are often inherently opposed to most else, and very frequently, political enemies are identified as religious enemies, and so eliminated with all due heavenly blessings. And as far as morals go, religion rarely manages to communicate the proper, or at least reasonable, messages. I've learned more (morally) from my nonreligious friends than I ever did as a Christian, simply because the Bible is loaded with circumstantial and moral contradictions, often resulting in the acceptance of something horrible, like rape, murder, or even eating children (Deuteronomy 28:53, if I remember correctly).

Anyway, these are all just my thoughts--there isn't really any "correct" way to sort these sorts of issues out, since they aren't black and white. Ideally, I'd like for man to advance to the point where mythology and religion don't play and real role in society, and morals can be gleaned from the obvious collective good. But to take away religion (say China?) by force accomplishes absolutely nothing except blatant persecution, which is no better than the Inquisition, witchhunts, or any other form of oppression. There are fanatics on all sides, but I'd be pleased if at least people stopped killing each other over trivial ridiculousness.

On another note, I've made my peace with the whole of the topic, and I'd rather not argue about it (not that we were). So I'll leave it as it is, if even incomplete.

Understandable. Well put.

Man I know its closed......(this isnt quite on the ball of what yall were talking about)But the whole Kenya thing in general really gets to me. So this is more on the train of social issues and Kenya specific..... just keep in mind the psychological state of its people and all the gayass socio-political shit going on. Its a fucking breeding ground for hate fear and superstition....Just like in alot tumultuous times and places in history where fucked up shit happens.....
although it may express itself as such, the root and soul of Kenya's issues run way deeper than the sick superstitious bullshit that it spawns and perpetuates.
Fucked up and greedy people start a cycle that may last generations and the sick beliefs that pop up to cope are usually twisted remnants of something they thought they could put stock in, be sure of, Religion. Shit I just talked in a circle and got looped into your past rant....RESISTING THE WHIRLPOOL.

Man, what I wanted to say was un-awsome was this:
I found out via wikipedia that the singer from a band Im a big fan of OD and died literally next door quite a few years back. WTF. He was stayin at the motel next door after a show and just shot up and died.

Wow Entropy - That was quite an astounding couple of posts.

I can't argue against it, I completely agree with what you're saying.
Mke's me wish soemthing could be done about it, but it's always going to be around somewhere...

[Keeker]

There is a religion thread around here you should take this to.. Un-awesome though this topic can be.

Well, I'm going to be hugely selfish and whinge about what a shitty day today turned out to be.

First day back at college. That isn't bad. Honestly, I was looking for ward to. Final run up to the final stuff, gout our final music project coming up. We need to have a nine track set list in teh end of nine weeks, with roughly five hours a week to rehearse. With this, I was very happy. This course looked like it was going to be the bees nknees, cats pyjamas, dogs tuxedo and centipedes anorack.

Riiiight untill we had to decide upon bands. That was some kind of fucking pit fall that fate devised to make me realise how fucking irritating people are. Like in all groups of students, there are the talented individuals, the middle ones, and the less talented ones. I don't know what I'd rank myself. Not the worst, not the best, what ever, I don't care. That isn't the point. My point is that groups of friends can't bear the thought of being split up from one another. On a project on which nearly a sixth of our over all grade rests, people are hugely petty and just want to be in groups with friends rather than being in functioning groups.

Okay, gr gr, not so bad so far. I couldn't give two shits how the other groups feel, but I'm annoyed about my group. We have five people. OUr singer is possibly the most talented in the class, and she is hugely taleneted. We organised this last term, so mucho happy. Our guitarist is a guy who I have a good musical connectionw ith, we work well together. Then there is me, and then our last two members, Woody and Ash. Ash is a singer who can't really play on insturments. The guy tries, but doesn't put in enough time, but I can't reall yblame him, he doens't aspire to play an insturment, he wishes to sing or what ever. Our other guy is Woody. He is, and I call him this with great pains, a drummer. He can't keep time, he can't keep in beat, he has trouble going from a fill into a basic beat. And some how, I have to make this lot into a surviveable group. I'm playing guitar, so this means two people who are inexperienced with thier instruments will be slowing the whole band down, and Woody will just... God, I shudder at the thought.

I know, I sound awfully pessimistic about this, but I've been running on "Three Minutes to Meltdown" mode all day. I'm about ready to snap at the idea that I got doled such a shitty end of the stick. I know at least one group would of had to put up with Woody's... Woodyness, but I just feel like that the other times, he had a group of fully competent musicians to keep him afloat. I haven't got that anchored point, and neither does Ash. I am going to be pulled into a murky abyss by his blithering stupidity and I will probably bash his head against a wall within minutes of having to play with him.

I'm sorry, I'm acting like a giant child, but I have no where else to vent. Please, feel free to ignore this, I'm just having a tantrum.

Can't you somehow talk to whoever's in charge, teacher or whatever, and ask for changingness? D: