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#189857 by AlucardXIX
Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:58 pm
We have that too, it's called prime time TV over here, only now it's mostly filled with drama-laden "reality" shows. Though we have gems like 24 :)

And Oid, the reason we always call it "liberal" is because that is typically who they pander to. True, it usually does not match with what I believe, but either way it is typically leaning left.

Fox news does have a tendency to rip liberals for no reason from time to time, hell I cant stand when they are "fair and balanced" because it becomes a "who can yell louder" match on my TV and I HATE that. They cannot have a discussion on any news channel like we are having here, it always escalates to childish yelling and overly opinionated assholes...on both sides.
#189861 by The Oid
Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:24 pm
I wish I could get Fox News on cable over here (you can only get it on satellite). Like conservapedia, it's a genuinely source of comedy and entertainment.
(With the obvious disclaimer that I'm perfectly aware that it's not even remotely representative of conservatives)
#189876 by AlucardXIX
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:29 pm
It can be highly comical. Especially their constant coverage of celebrities who are in rehab or something. "Fox News Alerts" are the funniest though, because its just a story they've been repeating all day.
#190211 by Antiyou
Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:19 am
So, who cares about the FCC regs? Anyone gonna comment on Israel and Iran? I would think the prospect of imminent Nuclear standoffs should be more top of mind than tits on prime time. As previously mentioned, that's what the internets are for.

I read on the weekend that a leader in a South American country is approving hearings to investigate and charge former US gov't employees for approving and instigating torture. I wholeheartedly approve of this action and sicerely hope the rest of the world follows suit. Unfortunately, my stupid country let Bush in a couple weeks ago when he should have been denied entry according to our laws. Next on the list should be Obama for doing nothing to change the current torturous regime.
#190234 by AlucardXIX
Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:21 pm
Ahmendinajad(not sure how its exactly spelled...) has said Israel should be wiped from the face of the Earth...the last person who said something similar(in terms of a leader) was Adolf Hitler, and look what happened when we ignored him for a while. Israel has every right to defend itself if Iran attacks them, and America, Israel's ally, should step in if need be.
#190258 by The Oid
Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:17 pm
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of America's unconditional support for Israel (to the extent that they're extremely reluctant to criticise when Israel clearly steps over the line), but an Iran (or any other fundamentalist theocracy) with nuclear weapons is really not something that the world needs to see.

Mutually Assured Destruction kind of falls apart, when one of the sides is based on a system that not only believes in an afterlife, but believes martyring oneself will result in being rewarded in said afterlife.

The US and USSR might have had their differences in the Cold War, but at least both sides actually gave a shit about what would happen if a nuclear war were to come to pass.
#190262 by AlucardXIX
Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:32 pm
The Oid wrote:Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of America's unconditional support for Israel (to the extent that they're extremely reluctant to criticise when Israel clearly steps over the line), but an Iran (or any other fundamentalist theocracy) with nuclear weapons is really not something that the world needs to see.

Mutually Assured Destruction kind of falls apart, when one of the sides is based on a system that not only believes in an afterlife, but believes martyring oneself will result in being rewarded in said afterlife.

The US and USSR might have had their differences in the Cold War, but at least both sides actually gave a shit about what would happen if a nuclear war were to come to pass.


Exactly, on the Cold War part. It really puts it into retrospect about how things could go down. Israel does go to extreme measures sometimes, but I believe it is definitely for the safety of their people and land.
#190348 by Antiyou
Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:18 am
AlucardXIX wrote:Ahmendinajad(not sure how its exactly spelled...) has said Israel should be wiped from the face of the Earth...the last person who said something similar(in terms of a leader) was Adolf Hitler, and look what happened when we ignored him for a while. Israel has every right to defend itself if Iran attacks them, and America, Israel's ally, should step in if need be.



I've read various conflicting reports on that specific quote. I don't speak Iranian or whatever language it is so I cannot tell for sure one way or the other. All US media outlets use the same translation you paraphrased. I have also read that the quote was taken out of context and was simply a comment on the fact that Israel should not exist as a country. Although I'm not an expert on the subject, all of the reading I have done has failed to convince me that he is wrong. Furthermore, he (I don't want to try and spell the name) is not actually the one pulling the strings in Iran. He is little more than an amusing public face of the theocratic gov't. On that note, would you call America's gov't anything other than a Theocratic dictatorship? Finally, on the nuclear issue, both the UN and US inspectors have repeatedly stated that Iran is nowhere near a weapons program. I guess nuclear experts aren't worth listening to though. Wolf Blitzer surely knows infinitely more than nuclear weapons inspectors.
Listen, I'm against any theocratic gov't or society. It sounds like I'm taking Iran's side. I can't say for certain that I am not but if I had to trust a gov't out of the choice of the 3 (US, Israel, Iran), I'd plead the 5th.
#190395 by AlucardXIX
Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:25 pm
Haha so naive.

America is FAR from a theocracy. If we were, there would be no mosques, synagogues, or any other place of worship in America besides the set religion, like in Iran...there are no churches or anything besides mosques.

Facts first my friend.
#190534 by The Oid
Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:49 am
Antiyou wrote:On that note, would you call America's gov't anything other than a Theocratic dictatorship?


I knew this would come up. No, America's government is not a theocracy, not even remotely.

Walk down a street in America wearing a t-shirt that says "Christianity is a lie". You might get a kicking (from private individuals) depending on what part of America you do it in, but you won't get arrested or sent to jail for it (and you'd probably be able to sue the ass off the police if you did).

Walk down a street in Iran wearing a t-shirt that says "Islam is a lie". Note the difference.
#190545 by Keeker
Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:50 am
I know I cracked this daft thought somewhere before but Iran = notable earthquake zone. Building nuclear power stations there still makes me think plate tectonics may have the last laugh. :!:
#190552 by Antiyou
Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:41 am
AlucardXIX wrote:Haha so naive.

America is FAR from a theocracy. If we were, there would be no mosques, synagogues, or any other place of worship in America besides the set religion, like in Iran...there are no churches or anything besides mosques.

Facts first my friend.


I'm naive? Do you know how your leading public officials get vetted for the electoral process? If they ain't AIPAC approved, there's no chance of ever making it to a ballot. The US may not be a theocracy at street level but politically, it's been there for years. Furthermore, I would still challenge anyone to walk the deep south in COF's "Jesus is a Cunt" t-shirt.
I also urge every American to read the National Emergency Centres Establishment Act (H.R. 645) which is still pending (introduced in January). Everyone lives in a bubble and currently are being numbed by the press' outrage over the 165mil AIG bonuses. In the mean time, Haliburton is getting richer by planning your enslavement. Don't wait until there is a domestic Guantanamo to start the protesting. It's a slippery slope if the NECEA passes.

**edit** I see the automatic curse word finder changed n i c e t r y to cake. I approve the base message using either noun. Both are tasty, come in varying colours and flavours, can lead to serious health problems and over time are expensive.
#190598 by AlucardXIX
Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:48 pm
The AIG bonus scuffle was a big cover up for worse things the government has done, such as trying to approve a 3.6 TRILLION budget(yes, more TRILLION...as in 1000 billion)

America=fucked financially unless they cut this big spending.

As for the "theocracy" deal. Most of the people in the government are NOT religious my friend. Any religious person would be against abortion, every catholic in the world seems to be so why would these people in congress be so adamant about legalizing it? Because they arent religious. Obama is more than likely an atheist using his "religious background" as a stepping stone to get elected.

I'm so tired of people bitching about religion when there are bigger problems at stake, like America's fucking economy.
#190657 by Antiyou
Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:42 am
AlucardXIX wrote:The AIG bonus scuffle was a big cover up for worse things the government has done, such as trying to approve a 3.6 TRILLION budget(yes, more TRILLION...as in 1000 billion)

America=fucked financially unless they cut this big spending.

As for the "theocracy" deal. Most of the people in the government are NOT religious my friend. Any religious person would be against abortion, every catholic in the world seems to be so why would these people in congress be so adamant about legalizing it? Because they arent religious. Obama is more than likely an atheist using his "religious background" as a stepping stone to get elected.

I'm so tired of people bitching about religion when there are bigger problems at stake, like America's fucking economy.



Who gives a flying fuck about Congress? I don't know why they even bother at this point. Have they even done anything in the last 8 yrs other than be bullied? The economy is not going to be fixed. So long as the system relies on self-policing and nobody cares that AIG is a funnel for bailout funds to get to Goldman Sachs, what is going to change? Until there is a global currency regulated by numerous countries with a solid base, how will the economy ever revive? The fact that you see Obama as an individual concerns me because I don't think you are seeing the bigger picture or the scope of the problem. Obama is a cog. He was completely interchangeable with McCain last year. They were going to perform the same tasks no matter the outcome. There is no "HOPE" and there will be no "CHANGE". This is all carefully scripted theatre. Obama was elected as the lesser of 2 evils. The misinterpretation is in the fact that there are not 2 evils. There are different shades of the same evil. Learn about the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), learn what role AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committe) plays in your gov't. As you said, there are bigger problems at stake.
#190683 by AlucardXIX
Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:56 pm
Congress has been bullied by who? Congress is doing the bullying.

I'm waiting for you to start throwing conspiracy theories down, because I can tell that's where you're headed with your argument.

The US dollar is considered the global currency at this point in time. We need to switch back to the gold standard...badly. The only problem is that there isn't enough gold for all that has been done by Congress and the Obama admin.

Seriously though, first sign of conspiracy theory bullshit, and I start ignoring your posts.

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